2y ago

ArcGis Pro in Wine?

Has anyone done this? Its a very proprietary program lol, so I can imagine that doesnt work.

But its powerful and my Uni supports it. I am fine with just following classes on Uni PCs and then learning QGis myself, but yeah...

Are there any tricks for running "modern", maybe DRM infested Software?

Also, how I did it was always just running executables in existing Bottles, as I dont get having a new small OS for each app. But that doesnt seem to work that well in Bottles.

50 comments

I've gone that road and I'll tell you that making a windows virtual machine is much less of a headache. I'd recommend using qemu/kvm over something like virtualbox because otherwise it won't be very usable
- Yeah thats an entirely different thing. My GPU is weird and virt-manager doesnt work, while OpenGL enabled VMs are nice and smooth but had other problems with the correct viewer and all...
  Asked ChatGPT for every damn parameter or viewer, user virt-viewer, remote-viewer, VNC, some GTK viewer.
  
  I don't do passthrough on my windows VM, since I'm not doing 3D work it still works with qxl
  
  What's your GPU and distro?
  Without knowing those, start here
  https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF
- Why is qemu more usable?
  
  Because of GPU passthrough
- It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI. Windows licenses are cheap and you get things working out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’ll be productive from day zero. There are annoyances from time to time, sure, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.
  
  It takes 15 mins to make a stable and usable windows VM, also who buys windows licenses in a Linux community
ESRI, the Microsoft or Adobe of Cartography. It's a shame that public authorities get convinced to pay double.
I’d bail on ArcGIS. It’s expensive and QGIS does everything you could possibly need to do without the price tag, or the windows dependency. If you know ArcGIS, Q will feel very familiar.
- Do you have links for alternative resources for data, overlays etc? And does all the coding stuff work similarly?
  Yes I hate this seminar. Its basically Microsoft/ArcGis advertising, so horrible
  
  They have plug-ins for web tiles, and you can connect to the ArcGIS map services. It has a terminal, but I don’t use that function much. I generally do all data manipulation and prep using Python and postGIS, and use Q as a visualization and editing tool. But it has plugins for just about everything. Most of the data resources ESRI gives you is repackaged public data, so searching the internet will provide you with most of the layers you might need.
- Does it connect to the same arcgis BIM servers so I can work with my coworkers, in real architecture projects?
  
  I don’t work in the architecture space, but a quick search gave me some guidance on how to integrate BIM models in QGIS. The 3D City Builder plug in might do what you need.
I'll chime in to say their "Enterprise Linux" support is (or at least WAS in 2015) merely a wine wrapper. That said, I strongly dislike ESRI and would recommend any number of open source alternatives.
- Yes they suck for sure. Its just better to use currently as I dont have to recreate everything, as we pretty much sit there and get a GUI training lol
If you need to work with their FGDB format you can do that in newer versions of QGIS
- Luckily not! Only shb or how its called.
  
  shp? I’d recommend learning QGIS regardless, even if its ui looks like 💩
  Good luck in your search!
Not sure what your use case is, but consider something like geojson.io if you can export the map data somehow. You might be able to do this from their interface or you might have to do browser network capturing to capture the requested data. It supports GeoJSON as well as KML, GPX, CSV, GTFS, TopoJSON formats.
- Qgis has Openstreetmaps data source, but I was thinking of custom community based layers like "all wildfires in 2023" etc
  
  I see. With the link you should be able to query a geojson file that can then be imported into geojson.io. I used Query 'GLOBALID IS NOT null' to get the top 50 of 2000 results. That should give you a starting piont. The first link is just a way to query the data in this link
  I'm unfamilar with Qgis but I have been able to import layers into geojson.io before from arcGIS.
QGIS is a very nice piece of software, definitely worth checking out. Some of our geographers use Mapinfo (proprietary) but most use QGIS. Everyone hates ESRI.
Some of your classes might require some ESRI plugins... I would check with your teachers if it's okay to use QGIS, they will certainly know the answer to that question.
- I asked already and they said "use the Uni PCs but you can also do a presentation about QGIS"
I tried this for the same reasons about ten years ago (college, free, etc) and found it to be essentially an insurmountable challenge. It's a bummer since they support Linux in other ways.
Maybe it is easier now.
- Hmm, could be easier and harder at the same time. DRM vs modern Wine
A good place to start is Wine's AppDB on their website:
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1081 (replace &amp; with just a &; Lemmy is replacing this without my control)
It looks like it's "garbage" quality. Someone very helpfully shared: "Program cannot run".
- It looks like it's "garbage" quality.
  To be fair, that's also true when running natively under Windows.
Wine's AppDB marks this as "garbage" aka "doesn't run at all". This is yet another case of Wine overpromising and underdelivering and also the typical collective delusion that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts.
Also, if one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it. Linux might be great but it isn’t for everyone and anyone. If you need to do your job without small annoyances that will curb your productivity it isn’t, most likely, for you.
- True. Office 365 is key, Libreoffice with git is simply not existing, leave alone co working at the same time. Onlyoffice simply sucks, even though I am sure they do great work and its complex.
  Cryptpad is great, but not really necessary and thereby often slow.
  
  Cryptpad is a joke. OnlyOffice could somehow work for a web thing but the license kills it.

50 comments