I wonder how long it will take

I ain’t gonna judge how one chooses to sell their body, time, safety, health, etc. But we do need to treat sex workers like other workers and ensure they have safe working conditions and the freedom to leave their employment at will. Heck while we’re at it we should extend it to agricultural labor too

Farm workers in Ontario, Canada are not entitled to:
minimum wage
daily and weekly limits on hours of work
daily rest periods
time off between shifts
weekly/bi-weekly rest periods
eating periods
three-hour rule (if you show up for work and are sent home before you've been there for three hours, most jobs are required to pay you for three hours)
overtime pay
public holidays or public holiday pay
vacation with pay
- Are you suggesting we don't give it to sex workers because farmers don't have it or we give it to farmers too.
  Technically I think most farmers are their own business so if they want to have holidays off they can. The alternative is state run farms which I support fully and completely.
You're crazy! /s
Especially agricultural work, as there is equally as much (sexual) exploitation happening!
I feel people who equalise sex work with other jobs downplay (immensely) the toll sex work has on the majority of sex workers.
It is really not comparable to construction work or any other job. Even in countries were sex work has long been legalised, there is no other job, by a long shot, which has so many people suffering from PTSD, drug and alcohol abuse.
- To be blunt, that's not at all relevant to the fact that they should have the same rights as everyone else if they do choose to do it.
- Are you aware of any sources specifically evaluating participation in sex work as a causal factor in mental and substance disorders (as opposed to sex work represented more prominently in populations already affected)?
- Um, law enforcement comes to mind.
  Not to say PTSD and unhealthy coping problems aren't a valod concern, but if we're going to try to reduce jobs based on how taxing they are on the human psyche, there are a number of fields that are respected that also qualify.
  Off the top of my head, schoolteacher and service industry worker. Cooks amd wait staff.
I feel like you're ignoring the reality that the prostitution industry avoids formal recognition by its very nature. Clients want to stay anonymous, pimps want to stay underground, and many prostitutes want to remain under the radar. Formal recognition is a necessary prerequisite for regulation and labor law.
I agree, but I for one am not enamored with the idiom of selling one's body.
- That's the point, isn't it? If the term wasn't specifically coined for this, it's been long used to shame sex workers. Which is sort of funny, considering all labor involves selling your body in some form or another.
- Yeah, it's probably more akin to a rental or timeshare setup (or so I've heard).
- It's literally done daily by sex workers, manual laborers, models, actors ...

I believe that all work under capitalism is coercive and workers do not fully consent to wage labor. Sex work is work under capitalism, therefore many sex workers are not fully consenting during sex due to the coercive nature of capitalism. Sex without full consent of both participants is rape.

workers do not fully consent to wage labor
This right here! Okay so to consent to something you need to be reasonably informed. There is no such thing as perfect knowledge so the standard is what a reasonable person (the legal definition, not the colloquial one). I'll bet you that very few people are actually reasonably informed when we take and work out jobs. How much value does your individual labour add to the economy? Not what you're paid, how much money does your work make total? Do any of us know, or even have an idea? We negotiate away our labour without knowing what that labour is actually worth. Worse than that, the person who does know will never tell you because they also pay you and it's not in their interests to tell you how much your worth.
Workers do not fully consent to wage labour because we literally can't. We're giving concent without being informed, any other aspect of civil society that would be a crime. For employment it's just the way it goes.
- This is one part of it. I also think it's important to think about how all labor under capitalism is coerced under the implicit threat of starvation and homelessness. Decisions made under duress cannot count as full consent.

If sex work is bad because a woman's sexuality should be saved for her husband,
And if the husband's role is to provide work in turn for his wife's sexual access,
And if being gay is bad,

What does it make you when you go work for another man?

yeah I'll go ahead and integrate that into my belief system
- working for other people is thus a sexual transaction, and therefore if you work for the same gender you are gay
  I should clarify that I didn't make these rules, they did

Meh. That's not inevitable. Some jobs are empowering, constructive and contributing.

Are those the jobs where you're the one running the business?
- Can be. Easier when it isn't for some.
  I'm off to work now to train psychotherapists

"some guy"

JC Denton stands against prostitution

This is ridiculous to equate the two in all cases. Jobs aren’t inherently built around that like sex work is. Jobs, in a capitalist society are but not universally. Sex work is

Sex work is only inherently built around debasing and dehumanizing yourself if you consider sex itself to be debased and dehumanizing. It's a service profession like literally any other.
- This is such a lib take that it pains me to read it. The whole post is worth a read, btw.
  https://proletarianfeminist.medium.com/the-problem-with-the-phrase-sex-work-is-work-bdac613eb2f0
  Such a complete misunderstanding of the industry is the result of a flattening of distinctions between all work and a misunderstanding of Marxist theory. Wage labor is exploitative because of the surplus value extracted from the workers' labor. Prostitution is sexual exploitation because it feeds off of extreme vulnerability to maintain a class of prostitutes, coerces sex through money and power, and exposes those women to high amounts of rape and violence. Not all work involves coercive sex, not all work comes with the high risk of rape and male violence in whatever legal context it operates under. Not all work puts the body and it’s component parts on the market to be bought, sold, and rented at will to the highest bidder.
- It is not about sex, it is about money. Because money is something people need to live it calls in question whether or not the sex is freely given or coerced. If a person has sex with someone not because they want to do so, but because they have to, I do not think there is much difference whether or not the threat comes from say violence or starvation. If people want to have consensual sex I think that is great in all forms that can take. If the consent is contingent on monetary compensation I think there is a high chance, though admittedly not entirely certain, that the sex is being coerced in some way, which I would say constitutes rape. Why do you think it is okay to have an uneven allocation of money in a society so that those on the top can do with those on the bottom as they want?
as a sex worker, i don’t find it either debasing or dehumanising
i have a well paying job and i do it because i want to
- Do you plan on this being a lifelong career for you? Why or why not?
- Good for you. We still resolutely oppose sex work due to the fact that it’s mostly from exploitation and that’s what causes it in most cases
I honestly don't know if I should up or down vote. The way you phrased that, after rereading it several times, I still can't understand exactly what you're trying to say.
Could you try again please?

Apprenticeship are a thing, you know that right?

sex work should be banned cause the 'clients' are rapists, all work is coerced