Lemmy resembles the old reddit experience so well that they even emulate the old reddit server performance
Lemmy resembles the old reddit experience so well that they even emulate the old reddit server performance
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I want to be mad but FFS Reddit had Conde Nast money for most of its shittery so they had NO excuse except incompetence.
At least Fediverse servers are typically Steve's old laptop or some shit so it's understandable.
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Like the good old times
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Given the... frankly absurd rate at which people are signing up to servers, and subscribing to other servers, and posting and commenting and upvoting and...
I mean it's getting a bit hairy, and user growth was already following a very steep growth curve. Reddifugees are hugging all instances to death.
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It really is a defining moment for Lemmy. If the devs can't adapt quickly enough to handle the traffic, I doubt many Reddifugees will stick around.
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I'm probably here to stay. Maybe not Lemmy specifically, but i've already joined Mastodon once and then bailed and things have only gotten worse since then. It's either this or Tumblr and my Tumblr account is still all jacked. Or maybe Cohost or Pillowfort will start drawing people in? I'd take one of those, too.
But even if i have to run my own Lemmy instance i don't want to go back to some privately owned site that's just going to have the same cycle kill it again
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It's early days here. Give it some time...
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It's part of the charm :D
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Agreed! Lemmy kinda captures the same sense of excitement and experimentation that the early internet seemed to have.
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You gotta use lemmy.world for the OG experience 😂
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Are all of the lemmy servers different? I just signed up on lemmy.world
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Well, they are different server with different versions of lemmy running. But I think lemmy.world is running great again
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And here I am laughing on my speedy private instance. For real, the best part of Lemmy is if your experience is bad you can hop to a different instance and not miss a post
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Question about this, is it just a speedier general browsing on other instances as well? Or just your local posts?
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Everything is faster. For the most part, your local instance will download posts and comments for any community you (or anyone else on your instance) is subscribed to. So when you log in, you log into your server and browse the content locally (posts from everywhere) while your server in the background constantly is receiving updates through the ActivityPub protocol.
I literally have no delay in using Lemmy in any way.
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It just feels so weird to have big threads with good fresh discussions going on hours after the post.
Not to say there isn't an occasional asshole here and there during this wave, but I don't think reddit has ever felt like this at any point.
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It's because sorting comments by "hot" prioritizes new comments more than old comments even taking into account votes. So a 3d old comment with 50 votes might appear below a 2h old comment with 5 votes. Unlike Reddit which just pushes the first comments to the top and anything new will drown in the sea of comments and never surface or be seen.
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Does the Narwhal bacon again?
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Only at midnight.
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Oh god
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Not sure if this is meant to be negative or positive but I for one like all the growing pains and issues. It makes the whole experience a little more engaging for me. I really like reading up on what problems are happening and how the teams are working towards solutions. I especially like the technical details that are just a little over my head because it’s fun to learn about!
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This is definitely a sink-or-swim moment for Lemmy. If this is going to work, this is the chance. Twitter and Reddit are imploding. Users have a reason to try something new and are willing to deal with young, buggy platforms because it's better than the alternative and they needed an Internet home. My upvote taking ten seconds to register is itself the knife's edge of creation, a new birth.
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Check out mlmym if you want to see it resemble the old.reddit experience too.
generic live instance
old.lemmy.world
old.lemmy.ca
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If you're on one of the bigger instances (lemmy.world for example) use https://lemmyverse.net/ to pick a smaller, less crowded instanceto call home.
I created an account on reddthat.com earlier today, and it's way less laggy than lemmy.world (my initial instance).
Hopefully in time lemmy gains functionality thatmakis account backup/porting easy so moving instances in nbd.
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Lemmy at least needs a feature like Mastodon to allow you to migrate your accounts to another instance.
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Or even simpler, a feature that lets you aggregate history, posts, comments and subscriptions from multiple instances in a transparent way.
Sort of a meta-account / fedacount that tells all Lemmy instances that accounts a, b, c, and d are all the same user.
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I wonder if anyone has been me
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I have been you, SwallowsDick
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Here's Johnny!
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Looks like the app wasn't developed with a scalable architecture from the start, then they strapped some caching out of desperation when users started flocking, and didn't consider the invalidation parameters for private pages correctly.
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The best part of this post, is the segue into the new !showerthoughts community
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Would upvote but I keep getting server-side errors
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That's interesting but have you considered that Value
<html>
of type java.lang.String cannot be converted to JSONObject?
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Laughs in lemm.ee
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yeah just made an account here, it's so much faster
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I'm dumb about this whole fediverse thing. Do I need to make an account on the lemm.ee instance to enjoy that sweet stability?
Or can I just "swap to a new instance" and keep my incredibly tiny comment history?
Using lemmy.world and constantly getting gateway errors.
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Wound up just making a lemm.ee account.
Let's see if this is noticably more stable.
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search actually works here.
already better than old reddit.
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I even got an error page the first time I tried to load this post. Just like old times! 🥲
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I would just wish there would be a new Reddit view as well. It is just so annoying having to click on the images to zoom in
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Gross
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Anything to make you feel at home 🥰
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Well, if its too slow, you can just self-host it.
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I have to check this... As that would the best way to have control of the account without risking that the instance were I am suddenly dissapears although I guess I need to setup cloudfare or something on my domain to avoid direct attacks to my dedicated server I guess as the instance where I am would be public to other users.
That and some domain provider with privacy protection which most have nowadays so my name and address isn't public directly on my domain info.
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I forgive it. It has tremendous potential
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It's great to be here. All part of the fun of being apart of something new.
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That depends on the instance you’re on.
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I’m worried about the search function. Every post ever made?
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For those of you who, like me, are coming from Apollo you guys can try wefwef.app. It’s great
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It's a nice app, but I'm really wondering who came up with that name and why. That's not how you name something if you want it to be successful.
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I know this night sound like a dumb comment, but it's kind of worth thinking about.
Since it isn't an iOS app, they could probably make a version of it which isn't so iOS inspired, because frankly that layout is confusing to anyone who isn't used to it.
I know Apple have a way of doing things, and they're like apps to look a certain way, but if you're not used to it it's not intuitive at all.
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But the point of wefwef is to feel familiar to those who used and are missing Apollo, the most popular iOS app.
There has been a groundswell of Android apps starting up and not a great deal of activity in the iOS-specific space. So, wefwef is welcome for those looking for something that ticks that box.
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Try lemm.ee instance. It is REALLY fast compared to lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works. And it is also general instance, not some theme-specific.
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Yeah, this is taking me back to 2013 reddit. Really enjoying it here. I'm hoping it continues to walk down this path.
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It's just lemmy.world, because majority of people jumped on it.
https://files.catbox.moe/kfvn0u.png
Use different instances to get better experience (you can still subscribe to communities that aren't on your server)
https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances/tree/main
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Ngl. I am having fun.
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Gotta start somewhere...
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Yeah but these guys aren't trying to make a profit from us and Reddit had venture capital money.
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I love that your first instinct after being here just a few hours is to bitch about things. Maybe donate and thank the devs for the free work they're doing so you don't have to deal with the bullshit on Reddit, and then in a month or so when the user influx has calmed down a bit, then you can bitch if you want.
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Did you think redditors will stop moaning just cause they are in a new place? Bitching is universal as long as three or more people can gather around on some corner of the internet.
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The instances are volunteer-ran and make no profit, give them some time to iron everything out
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Where do i donate?
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Look at the sidebar info on your instance, there should be links for donations.
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I'm pretty new to this federation idea, but if I'm on a small instance of Lemmy and browsing c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world, would I still see degraded performance?
Are the instances mirroring the content of the communities hosted in another instance?
(Edit: thanks everyone, your responses are really helpful!)
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There will just be less posts, comments, voting than usual
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The big user experience problem is everyone is getting funneled into Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml, and they can’t scare fast enough.
But Lemmy is federated. So signup for a smaller instance. You’ll still be able to subscribe and post to communities on other instances.
Ha, I applied to two smaller instances and have heard nothing but radio silence. The smaller instances are of no help if they don’t let anyone in.
Fair point. Tye small one’s Re being hugged to death and aren’t letting any more people in, so people are gravitating towards the juggernauts, and the juggernauts are collapsing under their weight. 
Next couple weeks should be interesting
My instance (civilloquy.com) has open sign-ups. ;)
I started on lemmy.ml but it was unusable for the past few days. Today I managed to get into programming.dev pretty quickly and it has been smooth sailing.
When I applied, I never got a notification that it got approved, but I could post and comment on that instance. So you might have been in a similar situation as me or the admins are still dealing with a large influx of people
try mine.
When I first joined, I never got a confirmation that my account had been accepted. After a few minutes, I just typed the username and password I used during registration and I was able to log in.
I was on world at first because I thought each instance was its own subreddit, so I went with the one with the most users! After a day and a half I somewhat understand instances now and have switched to a smaller one. Hopefully other reddit refugees will do it too.
Thanks for being so welcoming and patient with us. I'm really glad to be here.
That’s where join-lemmy really missed out. They should have introduced a set of rules like join-mastodon where instances must have at least two admins, a clear code of conduct, and clear rules as to how they manage closedown. That way users would be reasonably safe in picking an instance at random. But they didn’t so everyone should go to safe choices like lemmy.world.
Everyone keeps saying to join the smaller instances, but the reason people aren't is because they are harder to find and usually have application gates thrown up. Because you can't apply through the app, and because I am on mobile, I don't even know how many Instances I applied for and then forgot what the instance was even called by the time they may or may not have approved.
All of this needs to be laid out better from the get-go. Even simply listing a server strain metric or warning (even if it's something admins set themselves) would be useful.
Unless it defederates like beehaw keeps doing.
What's going on with beehaw? I'm a bit out of the loop.
What does it mean to say that Lemmy is federated?
Basically there are many different Lemmy servers. Http://lemmy.world Http://lemmy.ml Http://shit.just.works Etc etc
It doesn’t matter which one you sign up for. Most of them talk to one another. For example. Lemmy.ml people can subscribe to and read Lemmy.world communities.
Lemmy can also talk to other “fediverse” social media platforms like Kbin. You often see a lot of Kbin users in Lemmy comments.
The problem is that it uses WebSockets in a completely braindead way. There is absolutely zero reason to waste server resources on that for every single user. Of course it fails to scale..
But why do I have separate profiles for each instance? Is it because I signed up in three instances? Is the only way to rectify this, to delete accounts?
Imagine if you registered an email address with gmail, hotmail, and iCloud. You’d have three separate inboxes.
And like email, which is also federated, you don’t need a gmail address to message gmail people, or a hotmail address to message hotmail people. You can signup with one domain / instance, and subscribe to communities from another domain / instance.