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Israeli foreign minister says arms embargoes will lead to 'second Holocaust' and end of Israel

www.middleeasteye.net

Israel’s foreign minister has said that an arms embargo on his country would lead to the elimination of the Israeli state and “a second Holocaust”.

Gideon Saar was speaking on Tuesday at an international conference on antisemitism in Jerusalem.

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The eliminiation of the Israeli state doesnt have to cause a second holocaust. Just go back to where you, your parents and your grandparents lived before you invaded other peoples homes.
- But it's way easier to kill some people in the Middle East and give their land away than taking actual responsibilty for the Holocaust.
  
  And more profitable 💰
- Netanyahu would have to go back to Philadelphia
  
  I accept your terms.
  
  great, just what the US needs.
- I'm willing to compromise.
  The people born there can stay, but they have to become Palestinian.
- I'm firmly against the Palestinian genocide, but, isn't this a little ridiculous? Shouldn't we just focus on ending the killings and stopping further colonization?
  Like, as a 4th generation Canadian, do I need to go back to Ireland to make up for my great great grandparent's generation's gross history of colonial genocide?
  You don't need to evict Jewish people to end Zionism.
  
  The difference is that there are quite a lot of Palestinians alive today who had their homes stolen, and Israel keeps stealing more everyday. And they do it because they have always been allowed to keep what they stole in the past.
  
  Its really not ridiculous. Imagine if the west still kept all its african colonies that were captured during WW2 times. Thats what Israel is, only that it is even younger. Basically all of its jewish population is either first or second generation immigrants/settlers.
  
  Thats just flatly not realistic. Polling shows that Israelis on average are entitled, racist and violent. A plurality of them want every non jewish person expelled from Israel, citizen or not. And 47% of them want every Gazan killed, no matter their innocence. about 80% think the way the war is being executed in Gaza is just and should continue. They are fine with war crimes.
  Its easy to conclude that they will not live in peace with anyone if they feel they control any state apparatus.
  
  go back to Ireland
  Sis... do you think Ireland had colonies?
"Does israel have a right to exist?"
The answer to this is: did nazi Germany have a right to exist?
- I wonder if we can find a new way of describing the notion of "Israel existing." It seems opponents believe we mean killing the occupants of Israel or (somehow removing the area entirely) rather than reforging the state itself. It's not like we don't want the geographical region to continue existing.
  
  Israel has a right to become Palestine again.
Stopping me from doing genocide is literally genocide.
Israel is basically a rich kid with a dad who bails him out for ramming people with his Ferrari on a main street and still wants people to feel bad about his trauma
That’s some expert-level DARVO right there.
Oh but it's okay when Israel does it? Fucking hypocrites.
They can all fuck right off. There is so much I'd like to say but I cannot because I will be accused of inciting violence. Funny how Right wing and zionist incitement is allowed on social media, but when anyone left leaning says anything immediate bans. I'm hoping something of biblical proportions happens in Israel. Maybe it will turn into a self fulfilling prophesy, anyway, these are words, I can't encourage anyone other than any gods out there to rain sulfer and all that. I sympathise with the left wing Jews in Israel, but unfortunately, the genocide continues and this is their governement. Much like Maga now is, like it or not, the face of America, well Genocide is now the face of Israel.
Nice joke
Good. Fuck israel. I hope to see it burn.
- The irony is this violence is not from you. It spawned from Israel's own actions. And when will they learn that their actions have consequences
Well not to split hairs, but seeing as they are currently perpetrating Second Holocaust, it would have to be more like Third Holocaust. But the problem with the Israeli comments is that unarmed civilians aren’t very effective at holocausts.
Second holocaust?
Dude, you are committing the second holocaust, so that technically would be the third.
Having said that, aren't you kind of the reason why that would happen in the first place? Israel has had more than enough opportunities to make peace with everyone around it a hundred times over and so far all it has done is investing in making sure that shit got worse, like actually funding Hamas so that they could fight Hamas harder.
You dug your own grave here, I won't push you in it, but I also won't cry for you if you decide to jump in it
- assuming holocaust=genocide, then this is not the second. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides
"This latte is cold, this is a second holocaust, and antisemitic."
Yes, clearly Israel is using their weapons for defensive purposes, and if more weapons arent provided (for um defense, or course), All Israelis are under threat of annhialation.
/s
Maybe, just maybe, if you wanted to exist peacefully with your neighbors you'd stop indiscriminately bombing civilians and violating their civil rights.
Those people deserve to live in peace just as much as you. Stop being the aggressor. It's not fucking hard.
- Palestinians deserve peace a lot more than their colonizers.
- Go educate yourself on how Israel came into being in the first place.
  It wasn't through peacefully asking Palestinians to share the land but by three groups, who gleefully wore the title of "terrorists" that bombed & killed their way into terrifying the populace.
  It wasn't the Palestinians that planted a bomb in the King David Hotel that killed 96 in 1947. It wasn't Palestinians that carried out atrocities such as throwing babies into ovens in Deir Yassin and Tantura.
  Israel was born out of collaboration with colonisers & imperialists, through selling out other Jews who opposed zionism, through a thousand acts of indiscriminate terrorism against the indigenous population and through an apartheid system since.
  Bbbbbut what about October 7th?!!!
  It's history equivalence is the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising but Israel ain't the oppressed fighting back.
- breaking into someone's home and stealing it doesn't make you their neighbor
- Honestly not not sure if this is a pro-israel or pro-palistine comment. It reads like a condemnation of Israel's current action OR Israeli bullshit to justify their genocidal actions.
Tired of the israeli government using jews as a meat shield.
- it certainly hurts Jews all over the world - many of whom are also against what is being done to Palestinians.
Cry wolf again.
- if their mouths are moving, they are lying. In their culture, getting people to believe your lies makes you a genius not a criminal or con man.

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