Pornhub and three other porn sites face EU child safety probe
Pornhub and three other porn sites face EU child safety probe
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Pornhub and three other porn sites face EU child safety probe
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The EU, like Texas, Florida, etc wants age verification on porn websites. To "safeguard children" ofcourse.
They pinky promise that the surveillance machine they're building will never be used for harm!
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One day I am going to make a monster truck and call it "For Child Safety" and you know that shit will be the most unhinged monster truck ever because it will be driven by a teacher who's career doesn't exist anymore.
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Years ago the .xxx TLD was introduced for adult websites. If we're going to regulate adult sites. Why not require them to use .xxx for their domains and let parental controls do the rest?
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In a January blog post, it said age verification should take place on users' devices, such as through their operating system, rather than on individual, age-restricted sites.
The details of this are potentially problematic, as they could preclude the use of open source browsers and operating systems.
It would be great to standardize an HTTP header that says the user is underage, which could be sent by any OS/browser combination that has suitable parental controls.
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It would be great to standardize an HTTP header that says the user is underage, which could be sent by any OS/browser combination that has suitable parental controls.
I think this underestimates the tech savvyness of teenagers when it comes to circumvent such measures. Or maybe i am mistaken because when i was in that age range it was common to know more about computers than the parents.
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Kids can't use computers, and that's not good for the world. If teenagers figure out enough about how the computer works to get around the parental controls and watch porn, I consider that a net win.
I don't actually care if teenagers sophisticated enough to do that see porn.
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Banning teenagers from porn is not a fight worth anything.
It is kids we should be worried about. 8 year olds who get in contact with hard core porn or fetish porn or violent porn. That is not good for their development.
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Kids today are not tech savvy. UIs are streamlined and bugs are much less common in popular apps so they have to do less self directee troubleshooting to learn from.
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Technical solutions don't do shit and only inconvenience or compromise regular users. Where are the parents in all this?
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It is increasingly unrealistic to entirely prevent children from having unsupervised access to internet-connected devices from a young age, but attempts to make it impossible for anyone under 18 to access porn are equally unrealistic, and often far worse than the problem they purport to solve.
With good parenting, the possibility of accessing porn won't harm most kids. It's not just about keeping them away from it, but about teaching healthy and realistic attitudes toward sex.
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Won't somebody think of the children!!! If we ban Pornhub then all the children will be saved forever!
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I do not think politicians know what children see on Roblox
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A recent EU workgroup on this spend 50 minutes discussing the implications on the "metaverse".
These people really have no idea how technology works. They just know the marketing of the big few social media companies.
Someone should tell them about IPFS.
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I love when these clowns regimes come for the chidren but they didn't do anything about the Catholic church.
Bad faith behavior all around.
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You are comapring present with past.
Pedohiles gets locked up hard, no matter your religion. At least in Europe.
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Well demand apparently EU member states actually did some prosecution unlike the US
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_in_Europe
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It said the platforms also do not appear to be abiding by requirements for porn sites to use age verification tools to protect children from accessing adult content.
Good, no implementation of this not privacy nightmare.
It comes amid wider scrutiny of online pornography services worldwide, with many regulators looking to crack down on those that do not have age verification in place.
HAHAHA good luck with 1 billion head hydra.
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Do kids go to websites to see porn? Or they are bombard with pornography in social medias?
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Good. The effects of porn culture is a serious problem and free sites like pornhub are extra exploitative of the workers who create the content.
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I agree with you here, but we both know they have ulterior motives for this
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I care less about intention than impact tbh and pornography is banned or restricted in almost every country outside of the west for a reason. This is just the west catching up imo.
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It makes no sense that the age limit is 18 when most European country's age of consent is lower than 18. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe
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Holly shit. At least I'm not in the worst EU country, but second worst, really? I thought it was 18.
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Uh ? What's wrong about that ? These are basically generalized romeo&Juliet laws.
The highlighted age is that from which a young person can lawfully engage in a non-commercial sexual act with an older person, regardless of their age difference. If a participant in a sexual act is under 18 but above the age of consent then sexual acts with another person who is at or over the age of consent may still be illegal if the older participant is in a position of authority over the younger person.
Despite what the text says, here in France, being over 18 while the other person is not can often be enough to be considered in a position of authority btw
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European here, they're that low because our politicians fear they might piss off their pedophillic donors (rich white people), and many citizens think it's like for a close-in-age thing.
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I'm glad the EU is attempting to gate keep this filth but its never going to work. The kids will bypass this of course, they aren't stupid. The EU would also have to ban all kinds of VPNs, AI generation and file sharing to achieve this goal.
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Regulation doesn't always have to produce absolute prevention, even strong deterrence can be impactful.
We've seen how excessive porn consumption impacts the development (particularly of boys) so increased regulation is a thoughtful move.
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I honestly feel that this falls into parental responsibility. Both Android and iPhone comes with parental controls and the same is true for browsers on computers.
Android example:
iPhone example:
It's a search away to find step-by-step guides for this stuff, so you don't even need to know how to do it yourself.
Instead of, or in addition to, DNS filtering is also an easy technique (1)
I feel that parental responsibility and carefully crafted regulation can coexist to protect children. Device makers can also make it easier to access such settings or a "kids mode".
I think most parents know techbros have created an internet that is generally not safe for children and do their best to take measures to account for that. Any system that empowers parents to do that is welcome.
I feel like it's hard to make it easier then they've already made it:
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075738?hl=en#zippy=%2Cfor-family-members-who-manage-their-own-accounts
All it requires is knowing how to read and follow step by step instructions and the parents are in control.
In contrast all the control and surveillance systems being introduced as child protection will end up being used outside their first promised scope.
While "First they came for the porn" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came) sounds silly, if they can ban or control access to sites on a device level then what will they ban next?
Quite many right wing political groups would eye the lgbtq+ movement and they'd probably introduce that as "for the kids" too.