Dems Hemorrhaged Support from All Demographics in 2024 — Including New Voters
Dems Hemorrhaged Support from All Demographics in 2024 -- Including New Voters
Time for a Labor Party in America.
Now is the time for world socialist revolution. The time for a Labor Party was 60 years ago. Instead, the leadership of the trade union movement subordinated itself to the Democratic Party and imperialism. This process has been replicated worldwide in the various Social Democratic and Labor parties in support of capitalist exploitation and imperialist war. The entire system is in a state of advanced decay and historical bankruptcy with no possibility of meaningful reform.
I keep writing my senators. One senator I voted for under the Working Families' Party (his name next to both WFP and Dem). The Second Senator is an old fart who I wanted to look up to, but continues to enable the R party as a Dem.
I write them often, and a few days ago, wrote the old fart to let him know his actions directly are why I just changed my voter registration to independent. Im no longer registered Democrat. I was there for Bernie, and nothing good has come of anything over my 10 years as a Dem. I write the WFP senator to remind him I voted for him under that party name.
Will it do anything? I don't know, but I hope everyone is writing thier senators and reps at least bi weekly. Its so easy to do today, you dont even need a stamp!
Americans: We're very unhappy with the status quo
Dems: Best I can do is more status quo
I'm watching from the sidelines but my gods, you guys need to take your politicians to account. Bricks for the current lot first, mind. The two "sides" aren't equal - one is awful and the other is redefining how bad human beings can be without directly sending people to gas chambers.
Some of us have been trying. The masses tend to bully and tell us it's all our fault, somehow. According to the Democrats and their base, progressives are simultaneously too weak and unimportant to listen to, and so powerful that we can swing entire elections. I'm still waiting to hear how that one makes sense.
The gas chambers will be televised.
Murca is so fucked.
"The “What Happened in 2024” report confirms that 30 million voters who showed up to the polls in 2020 failed to materialize in 2024. That is a big number, and it represents the largest number of drop-off voters dating back to 2012, when 27 million voters failed to return to the polls."
It wasn't a "drop off" and I was telling people why this was going to happen before the election.
The 2020 numbers were artificially inflated by vote by mail covid precautions.
Republican precincts saw the increased Democratic turnout and actively worked to make vote by mail harder which limited participation and when fewer people vote that only helps Republicans.
It was all so predictable and the fix is 100% vote by mail EVERYWHERE.
Vote by mail addresses a huge obstacle to voting, employment. A lot of people can't take time off to vote.
Opening more voting sites would also be a good idea.
COVID people, that's why the huge turnout in 2020, nothing else. Especially mail-in ballots.
Pretty much, look at a non-covid election and compare vote by mail states to the average American turnout.
I'm biased because I live in Oregon and we tie voter registration to DMV licenses AND do 100% vote by mail.
2016: 80.33% voter turnout.
2018: 67.8%
2020: 78.5%
2022: 66.9%
2024: 75%
In 2016 there were 2,553,808 registrants and 2,051,452 voters, compared with 2020 and 2,951,428 registrants and 2,317,965 voters.
In 2024, the difference was negligible, 75% returning ballots and 2,308,256 voters. Yeah, a slight drop, but then we had a bunch of people die from Covid too.
Sources:
https://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/Voter_Turnout_History_General_Election.pdf
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/12/26/oregon-voter-turnout-dropped-75-percent-2024-election/
If you compare that to the national averages:
2016: 59.2%
2018: 49% (highest mid-term turnout since 1914)
2020: 65.3%
2022: 46% (highest since 1970)
2024: 63.5%
Sources:
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnout-in-presidential-elections
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
Not just that, but making voting day a holiday would help. Make it a friday to monday four day event for fucks sake!
If we had 100% vote by mail, we wouldn't need a holiday. :)
"Now if we just could be a little bit more like the republicans, that'll surely work this time around."
When she went MiA after the election instead of actually leading the opposition party like she claimed she wanted to but it appears she really only cared about the title so I no longer consider myself a democrat
I've never considered myself Democrat, even when I voted for them.
I considered myself a Democrat, because that all they was really, until progressives really started coming around two decades ago.
Dem strategist brains are as wormy as RFK Jr’s, they’ll never accept that it was anything other than the moral impurity of the voting base that lost them the election.
"It's not the product it's the marketing" - Dems (probably)
We need to abandon the Democratic Party at this point. Democrats are not capable of winning national elections. The Democratic Party is not run by serious people who actually intend on winning power and wielding it wisely. Those still telling folks to vote for Democrats are not politically serious people. The only future can be found in parties like the Working Families Party. Centrists will simply need to hold their nose, quit dividing the left, and vote for progressive candidates. Remember, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Republican. Democrats can't win national elections. In a two party system, we can't afford to throw our votes away on parties that are doomed to lose.
They literally won one election ago.
That's great, all we need now is another worldwide pandemic with millions of deaths to push through whatever idiot the DNC decides to run.
My vote was against rump roast, not FOR the Dem running office in 2020.
I'm not for any candidate standing against Medicare for all and the working people.
So yeah they won, but not because of love for the party.
It's honestly purposeful Chuck has one goal and the American people being more than a disposable piggy bank isn't it
They have no interest in listening to constituents. The “us or all hell breaks loose” tactic has worked too many times.
They're losing young people due to social media influencers and terrible male role models
and also because they continuously pick terrible candidates that don't reflect most of the populations views. and then they go and nuke whichever actually progressive campaign they don't like (sanders, hogg, etc).
to be completely honest, I think social media has less to do with it than most people are ready to admit.
I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once. Chasing these mythical "reasonable Republicans" has not worked, will not work, and will continue moving the Overton window further right.
So I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do. Could we please get another party that actually represents people???
Here's the thing. No.
We don't really have two parties. We have oligarchs in control of both parties, and both parties work together to make sure no more parties can exist. They do this by making it seem like the right and the left are opposed to each other, but really both work together to keep you down.
We can't fix this with parties. What we need to do is abolish parties. Prevent rich people from consolidating power. Give no small group of power-hungry bastards the ability to control everything. This means a drastic overhaul, and the people in power are not going to give it up willingly. They won't fight fair, they won't accept the results of an election unless it goes their way, and they won't give you an opportunity to win.
I agree with the sentiment, but I do not agree that political parties should be abolished. Instead, there should be proportional representation, and more political parties, with more perspectives — the majority of solutions come from a democracy.
They had power because the DNC was behind them, and due to the "victory fund" the DNC controlled the purse strings of a lot of state parties.
The voting members of the DNC listened, and elected a nonbiased DNC chair for the first time in decades.
So now the senior elected Dems don't have anyone behind them. Seniority only mattered as tradition, they can all lose their leadership positions now if they lose the next round of leadership votes.
We basically did already. The Chair has ultimate control of the party, and we got a drastic change in chair.
Oh "drastic" change huh? First thing the new Dem chair (Martin) did was put up that right-leaning zionist bluedog centrist idiot Slotkin to rebutt trumps state of the union speech. Thats some impressive change. And its been Dems collaborating on republican votes since then, hasnt it. I see no change whatsoever with the new chair. If anything he fumbled over himself to assure the donors as quickly as he could that they were still calling the shots, and that progressivism hadnt been let into the building.
Another party won't help. They have already gotten their fix in. Voting doesn't matter in the US anymore.
Voting won't save us now. Self defense and community defense are all we have left. The system has been stolen by the ultra rich, and they are gleefully enacting as much violence against us all as they want, because they "know" they don't have to listen to us anymore. The only fix is to Luigi the violent class.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs
https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.