2mo ago

One person dead and five injured after car explodes near IVF facility in Palm Springs

www.theguardian.com

One dead after ‘intentional’ explosion near fertility clinic in Palm Springs

Police say explosion outside American Reproductive Centers fertility clinic was ‘an intentional act of violence’

At least one person is dead after a car exploded near a reproductive facility in Palm Springs, California, according to local authorities.

Palm Springs Police spokesperson Mike Villegas told reporters the car explosion was “an intentional act of violence” but the investigation is ongoing.

Officials did not immediately say whether or not the person who died was associated with the car, but a facility official said all of the building’s staff were safe and physically unharmed.

At least also five people were injured in the explosion, ABC7 reported, citing law enforcement sources.

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2mo ago

One person dead and five injured after car explodes near IVF facility in Palm Springs

www.theguardian.com /us-news/2025/may/17/car-explosion-ivf-facility-palm-springs

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- Something tells me you never visited the article itself and only read the first four paragraphs OP posted on Lemmy. If you had, you would've seen this:
  “Everything is in question, whether this is an act of terrorism,” Palm Springs police lieutenant William Hutchinson told the Desert Sun newspaper.
  They're not suspiciously avoiding anything; they may literally not know yet, and immediately jumping definitively to terrorism while they work out what happened is irresponsible, because "terrorism" isn't just an epithet: it's a real, actual, specific crime.
  
  They're happy to call it an intentional act of violence, so they've ruled out a lot of the explanations for an exploding car. The bar for "terrorism" is pretty low - they charged an Atlanta student with is for tossing bottles of water and dry ice out his window.
  Regardless, it's definitely a journalistic choice whether to quote the police lieutenant's very careful, and possibly technical statement, or to quote the business owner (Musk) or US President speculating. And maybe it just turns out that it's carefully ethical journalists reporting on potential right-wing violence, and usually unethical hacks reporting on possible attacks on the corporatocracy, but it sure does feel like a pattern.
- something something, false flag and republican supporter doing the deed.
- The subtitle in the article clearly calls it terrorism
  FBI statement describes attack as ‘intentional act of terrorism’, adding that clinic was deliberately targeted
Here's a fun little thought experiment. What would an Evangelical Suicide Bomber yell before smashing that detonator button?
We're all well acquainted with the Islamic version. Cuz racism and propaganda.
Hellsing Ultimate Abridged gave us a hypothetical glimpse at Catholic Suicide Bombers.
What would an Evangelical scream?
- Probably something like, "for Trump!"
  
  Trumpu Akbar
- Sounds like this was someone on the left trying to stop overpopulation. This wasn't an abortion clinic. It was the opposite: a fertility center.
  So I guess they would yell "for the climate!"
  
  Stooop... Sheesh. We all know it was probably people who believe that artificial insemination is like an affront to their imaginary friend or tradition or something. Those are the only people stupid and weird enough to try to terrorize a demographic like this.
  Edit: we're both wrong. It was a person who claimed they didn't want to be born. https://sh.itjust.works/post/38199657
  
  It reeks of a false flag. Handy excuse for the Insurrection Act.
Really, now people are mad that others are trying to have kids?
- This is the conclusion of all those "humans are the virus" type posts, all the "I didn't ask to be born" angst. These people think existence is suffering therefore it is morally wrong to have children. They're unwell.
  
  There are bad actors in every group, but the vast majority of these people do not engage in acts of violence.
  Painting them with this brush would be like pointing at parents who abuse their children and then saying that all parents abuse their children. It's obvious bullshit.
  
  Nothing wrong with anything you just said, taking action to prevent others from having kids however….
  
  I chose not to have kids not because I didn't ask to be born, but because I am fully aware that I do not have what it takes to be a good parent. I have major issues with sensory overload, and little kids are basically little perfect generators for unpredictable noise and smells.
  If I had conceived a kid accidentally, of course I'd spend every last ounce of energy I had in me making sure that they had a lovely childhood. But IMO, being able to recognize this simple fact is what separates me from my own parents, and them not being able to recognize that simple fact is what robbed me of having a childhood at all.
  
  I get it, but at the same time, some very competent people that could be amazing parents need IVF and it's not right to take that away from them or terrorize them for that choice.
  Some might shame them for not adopting, but I think that's a stupid mentality. Not everyone has the same needs to be filled with parenthood. Some want legacy, some want someone to love unconditionally, some want to give back to the community, some want a part of themselves and their partner to be left in this world, etc.
  I've even heard some say IVF shouldn't be covered by Universal Healthcare where I live, because "God didn't want them to have kids anyway", but if we went with that mentality, nothing would be covered by Universal Healthcare, because "God didn't want them to live or be cured anyway".
  Too many people have a serious lack of empathy for others.
Christian terrorism
- Yuuup
- This dude was an antichristian anti-natalist.
  Edit: Here's the guy's website: https://promortalism.com/
intentional act of violence
Had the target been a church, everyone would have been screeching "terrorism!", but this was a fertility clinic, so it was just random violence instead
- The FBI is claiming terrorism.
  https://abcnews.go.com/US/explosion-shakes-palm-springs-residents-instructed-stay/story?id=121910709
I was actually listening to NPR yesterday and they bring up the new old finding that world population is soon going to start declining. A lot of people bring up the Koreans and Japanese but don't realize that they were first but we're all fucked. Additionally, no matter what any government has done so far, people are having less kids and no single country has been able to improve that. So there's something going on and we don't know what it is. Also plastic in your testicles and ovaries is probably alright. And Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS) forever chemicals are probably OK to drink from. Anyway, no clue what might be going on. So you guys go fuck, porn will soon be illegal so you'll have to do the real thing. I know most of you are fat and many wear glasses.... Which are definitely not due to pfas but you'll have to compromise. God only wants you to fuck for kids, none of that transexual stuff is allowed. Get them babies out fast! We gotta war to win against China. But remember, go to schools so you too can pay a mortgage larger than your paycheck. Sorry, no healthcare for women, or IVF, or genetic vaccines that work better.
- The only reason the US hasn't started to experience a population slowdown the way Japan and Korea have is because of immigration. The process is significantly farther along for them but we would have started.
- Additionally, no matter what any government has done so far, people are having less kids and no single country has been able to improve that. So there’s something going on and we don’t know what it is.
  It's not a mystery. People can barely afford themselves and kids are expensive as fuck and interfere with having a successful career(especially for women) so they're having less of them.
  
  Are you sure? How about if we started a new war and we gave you a whole 5,000 dollars just to have babies?
- Interestingly, the US fertility rate fell below the replacement rate all the way back in 2007. I knew we were dependent on immigration, but I didn't know how long ago that happened. Japan was actually 1974. Korea 1983. So as you say this isn't a new problem, and the US is not immune.
- No no no, no schools, that's too expensive and teaches people to be liberal. Maybe just start working to support ~~the billionaires~~ the economy
- One thing that I never see discussed when global population decline is brought up is that maybe we don't need 7 billion humans on Earth, each competing for increasingly fewer resources? Our population could be declining because we have reached the limit of what resources our global economic system can provide.
  I have seen the polemics take the shape that humanity needs to be this large or else we will go extinct somehow, but I can't be the only one who understands that if we grow to the point where we exhaust all available resources, our species is doomed. Conservation as a concept is an inherently selfish one — it's ostensibly about biodiversity for the sake of the Earth, but really, it's moreso about maintaining the kind of environment that humans find most comfortable. Humans can survive in the desert but not when it's 145 °F during the day.
- Here is an interesting graph I found. Birth rate accounting for the child surviving to reach childbearing age. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/effective-fertility-rate-children-per-woman-who-are-expected-to-survive-until-childbearing-age Not sure if the target is still 2.1 though. I couldn't find a better graph to show population rate by birth per country though. That would be an interesting graph that I think would tie into the haapiness of people and the polution levels of thier area.
So the only person that died was the person in the car?
And it looks like they're not anti-abortion, but anti-fertility? I'm not sure how they could say this is terrorism. Sounds like a climate activist.

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