DOGE says it has saved $160 billion. Those cuts have cost taxpayers $135 billion, one analysis says.
DOGE says it has saved $160 billion. Those cuts have cost taxpayers $135 billion, one analysis says.
I bet we could have gotten $160 billion if we made Elon pay his taxes
Daily reminder that everyone in America could have UBI if billionaires just paid what they currently owe in taxes.
Got a reference? Pro-UBI and anti-billionaire as I am, I’ve done the math and I don’t think that checks out. Meaningful UBI has an annual price tag in the trillions, and even if you assume 90%+ top bracket tax rates there aren’t enough billionaires in the US to foot that bill. Other programs would have be discontinued and/or rolled in, and tax rates increased across the board.
With domestic terrorists like these, who needs foreign adversaries?
I really wish the mainstream media would describe this with historical context. Alfred Hugenberg gutted the German bureaucracy when hitler took power to allow the Nazis free reign, and that is absolutely the point of DOGE today.
In the same vane, I can also save by geting rid of my home, car, job, investments, spouse and start eating dirt instead of food. I'd be homeless and misserable. But I'd have no expenses right now. Would it make me wealthier? No. What about later? Again, no. In fact I will quickly get poorer.
He is running the department of shutting down whatever Musk personally dislikes. Enabling corruption, extracting data for hostile foreign interests and loosing the peoples and contrys wealth.
I can also save by geting rid of my home, car, job, investments, spouse and start eating dirt instead of food. I'd be homeless and misserable. But I'd have no expenses right now.
Turns out that the typical life people enjoy in Haiti is the ideal they are going for. Stupid libraries.
And with the money they're allegedly saving, they're paying for a foreign prison to torture people without trial
Why does it appear that every member of our military has betrayed their oath?
No they haven't. If you were in military you would know that they can't demonstrate against the president while in service. So don't take their silence as submitting.
This is coming from a vet and with a cousin still serving right now. Not saying all are against but there are people.
Don't blame it on the little guy
Is an oath binding or just words
When you're recruiting for an organisation that makes it its entire mission to spread suffering and destruction around the world, you're not going to get the best people.
Cost taxpayers $135 billion so far...
I’m sure this doesn’t even calculate the downstream damages done when agencies like FEMA can no longer do their jobs effectively. But I’m sure some for-profit enterprise will fill the gaps where possible to screw people out of their money.
Cost us 135 billion so far, it is going to be much much higher now that they have gutted the IRS and countless investments into our economy. The truth is they are going to cost us tens of trillions of dollars.
I still think they lost more than they cut just in money terms and this is missing costs or overstating savings. The military ads have disappeared that I have been complaining about. Either they met their headcount or realized they were spending to much or they realized they can't appeal to patriotism with such a treasonous administration. EDITED 2/27 - the ads are back. Looks like they just disapeared for sat 2/26. mentioning because its still creepy to me and I did not want to incorrectly give the impression they stopped.
We've already lost something like half a trillion dollars in tax revenue. And that's just the people Leon Skum fired to stop billionaires from paying taxes. And that's not even counting the TRILLIONS of dollars the US is going to lose to tarrifs, fucking up our trade relationships, and burning any desire for American manufactures equipment.
There's a ton of gallows humor in knowing the people that the braindead elected to mAkE aMeRiCa GrEaT aGaIn are going to be responsible for ruining the country. Sucks that it's going to burn down around my ears, but at least I can find some humor in it I guess.
Per year versus one time cost?
"says". I'd like it if articles were more clear about this. 160 is the max range for the "savings". It's not that much and I'd prefer that get broken down whenever mentioned. 135 they acknowledge doesn't include the costs of the legal issues it's caused. In the meantime the debt goes higher faster, which was the whole point according to them if you take their word. You shouldn't. I'd guess interest rates on the debt went up because of the instability, but that's just my guess.
Yeah, I'm highly dubious that the 135 figure includes speculative future problems that will inevitably crop up from the damages done. While I'm sure that there is some amount of actual bureaucratic waste that was going on, there's no way the savings from that is going to cover the true cost which won't be fully apparent for years.
I get treason vibes.
Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller.
So not $2 Trillion like they initially said?
So they found the F-35s? lol
Yea, that's like saying you fixed the cut on your hand by amputating your arm.
Is there a competition for the dumbest hat slogan somewhere?
Having government turn a profit is a weird way of structuring against billionaires pay taxes. Don't have to pay for what's already paid for by other people!
That's still not how you wear a hat, idiot. Go die twice in a tutorial.
It's an interesting (predictable?) look into the psyche here.
I work for a big company, and while yeah it's a big faceless company, the people treat us ICs as assets, not liabilities; the company makes money because of its employees, not in spite of them, and they --- colleagues, manager, director, SVP --- acknowledge that.
My partner's company OTOH seems to treat employees more as a liability --- the kind of attitude of "we'd be more profitable if we didn't have to pay you," which is really aggravating (different industry than mine, so this is more the norm mindset unfortunately).
It's really clear how this whole farce of a government agency views the world.
That's just the monetary cost. They have have cost society far more than that.
How much would it cost to construct a guillotine? I bet the ROI on that would be fucking astronomical.
I could probably build it for $500. Less if it only needs to work once or twice and I can cut corners.
It's supposed to cut necks, tho. A guillotine that cuts corners is practically useless.
No, you'll be cutting cylinders, basically.
Damn, looks like I forgot to sharpen the blade. Eh, just keep raising it and dropping it. It will get through eventually.
$110 at harbor freight. Light and compact enough to bring it to any event. No power? No problem! For an additional $25 you can pick up a 20v cordless version. Variable-speed trigger and 6-speed dial provide adjustment for different applications. Additionally, you conveniently receive a complimentary 5 gallon bucket with purchase this weekend!
If Harbor Freight weren't explicitly referened, I would have expected this to end in "shop smart, shop S-Mart."
Harbor Freight really does have a tool for any job.
It cost nothing because by then we've seized the means of production. I'll be happy to build one with no labor cost. The benefits of its use are payment enough.
Just save Elon for last and run the blade against a brick to dull it a little first.
Around $500 USD plus shipping but there's a 5 year waiting list here.
If you add the week of labour to assemble once it arrives, about $2k if you hire someone, your total cost should be $3k with shipping, tariffs, etc.
The irony of this being subjected to tariffs.