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'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line

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3mo ago

'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line

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3mo ago

'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line

www.rawstory.com /trump-deportation-2671767128/

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Oh, just now? Come on. He ran on dismantling the government, and somehow people thought he was kidding. That, and immigrants were causing all our problems.
I don't see how we get ourselves out of this peacefully. Despite the party line being that everything will be better for business, what happens when domestic crops are left to rot in the fields because "the terrorists" were deported?
- what happens when domestic crops are left to rot in the fields because “the terrorists” were deported?
  They start using the labor of people who were sent to prison for attending a protest or writing anti-Trump stuff on social media.
  They are already constructing the facilities to keep them in.
- The second best time to do something is now
  
  And fleeing is the best choice. The U.S. can plant its own fucking trees (which it won't) while I finally feel a sense of relief on a trans-Atlantic flight.
- Concentration camps conveniently situated near farms & factories & burgeoning with detained "undesirables".
  
  You have to concentrate them.
Another red line? Sorry to be blunt but at this rate the constitution of his country is toilet paper. Used toilet paper.
Anyway dictatorships hate 1) insiders who see the outside, and 2) outsiders who see the inside. So both Trump+Bukele are making sure Garcia stays in the right North American potatoship, instead of the wrong one.
- The Alt-Right Playbook: The South Bank of the Rubicon
  
  As typical his videos are spot on. The analogy is perfect here:
  Roman Republic - there's an imperium system, to limit the power of [pro]magistrates. Caesar violates it by having an army in Italy as a proconsul.
  USA - judiciary orders exist, among other things, to limit the power of the executive. Trump violates it by refusing to facilitate García's return.
  I did mention other crucial red lines due to his violations of the first amendment, but this one is irreversible. And while I expect locals to try to move the river south (like he says in the video), much like people do here towards Bolsonaro or a potential successor, from the outside things are often clearer.
My concern at this point is that when people eventually reclaim power and overthrow the dictatorship, the other members that willfully participated in all of this will not be held accountable and will get away free, or even worse will be allowed back into a democratic government again.
I'm kinda skipping over the majority of the timeline here. But eventually, these people need to be held accountable for the countless crimes they have committed and the worse crimes that have yet to come. The majority of the republican party should see prison for life at this rate.
- Life in prison is not enough. That may have been an option after the civil war if they had done what needed to be done at the time. Unfortunately, this go around, there will need to be more drastic measures, and this doesn't just involve the officials, but the supporters as well. There is a blood debt that will need to be paid if we'll ever move beyond this for good.
  
  Are you calling for people's deaths?
  Regardless of how serious their crimes are, calling for people's deaths is not a great way to be(e) nice.
  Most of the unfortunate people who support the current administration are suffering from a lack of funding for education and other systemic issues that are not their fault. If the system were to collapse and be restructured, we should aim to help those people, not punish them.
Ah, I love that even after reading this I'm not sure what the red line is exactly, because there's like three different overlapping court cases mentioned and they're all terrifying in multiple ways. /s
Also, this is nearly a copy of the Bluesky thread.
archive.org link: https://web.archive.org/web/20250414191129/https://www.rawstory.com/trump-deportation-2671767128/

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