Trump gave ‘green light’ to Israel before Gaza bombing that left ‘400 dead,’ report says
Trump gave ‘green light’ to Israel before Gaza bombing that left ‘400 dead’: report
The US has been green-lighting genocide in the Middle East for decades. Party A only seems to notice when Party B takes over the White House. But this has been an ongoing horror story going back to Operation Ajax and the dismantling of the Egyptian democracy following the death of Gamal Nasser, largely through collaboration between the CIA, MI5, and the Mossad.
His base supporters don't really know or care about the details, because they're too invested in doing white nationalism at home. His opponents only seem to care about the genocide as far as it allows them to express racist sentiments toward Arab-Americans and other Muslim groups for being insufficiently enthusiastically liberal. His bourgeois supporters recognize genocide as a get-rich-quick scheme for their failsons and faildaughters.
This bloodshed won't end before the western military occupiers are removed from the region. And I doubt I'll see that happen in my lifetime.
I find it deeply disturbing that when I opened the comment section of a post discussing 400 (now over 700) dead people, mostly innocent children, men, and women, in less than 48 hours, the first reaction was to blame “Arabs,” “Muslims,” “Tankies,” “Leftists,” and “Pro-Palestinians,” using these minority communities as tokens.
Tankies are not "minority groups"...
This is a glaring display f hypocrisy, these groups are portrayed in a positive light only when it benefits politically, only to be thrown under the bus when they are no longer useful…
There is no hypocrisy. Arabs and Muslims are portrayed in a positive light to counter the American far right's frothing hatred of them, that was the core reason.
Any human capable of experiencing empathy would have first reacted with disgust and indignation at the unfolding genocide, rather than resorting to scapegoating and divisive rhetoric, but it may also not be organic comments, what do I know…
"divisive rhetoric" you sound like a fucking centrist.
I don't care who gets bitchy over this;
America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.
Suck eggs, whenever you can save up for them. The stay-at-homes are just as guilty.
Suck eggs = children are dying and I’m gloating over it.
Anything to own the lefties though, eh.
America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.
There was no chance under biden or harris that the genocide would end without running to completion. None. They're both centrists, and genocide is the only policy I've never seen a centrist abandon.
Voted harris but refuse to carry water for genocide supporters.
Stopping the genocide was never a choice in the table with the red and blue party
Sorry your blue team proto-fascists couldn't contain their disgusting bloodthirst enough to win the election from the red team fascists. Think outside of this bullshit electoralist thinking for just a second.
And exactly zero people are shocked by this.
You're not shocked because you're a scum and deepdown you think they deserved it
These pesky arabs costed you the elections after all, right?
I'm sure the Arab nations, and the Palestinians in particular are besides themselves with joy and appreciation to have such an eloquent and thought provoking individual representing them.
Keep up the good fight! Hope the eventual anyeurysm you're blasting towards is massive, severe, and you don't suffer at all.
Lighten up, Francis
I would like ANYONE to stick a camera into the face of these Arab and Muslim leaders who told their followers to help get trump elected because they didn't think Joe Biden was acting fast enough or giving them the attention they wanted and ask them if their feelings are still hurt with news like this.
I'm sure the people of Gaza are so pleased with them and their stupidity
BuT dOn’T vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe JoE!!1!1! ThE PrIcE Of EgGS!1!1!
And the trump admin wants to build seaside resorts in the purged Gaza then told us to STFu about eggs while the price more than doubled.
There are far too many people on this earth who can only imagine black and white.
They can't imagine you can have bad and you can have much worse and they are not the same thing.
Edit - in case the downvote wasn't someone who voted trump to "save Palestine", my point is you don't save someone from bad by giving them worse. Which we did.
And not "voting for bad" while allowing worse is performative privilege.
Democrats a year ago: Shut up about Gaza! there is no genocide, you are just being dramatic.
Democrats now: Ohh, poor gaza, why aren't you doing anything about them? This is all your fault!!!
I sure hope everyone who said “Genocide Joe” and “Kamala is a cop” sleeps well every night. Also those 100,000 Dem protest voters in Michigan.
You did it guys, you saved Gaza.
My friend in lebannon got widowed last year.
Who was in power in the US then?
Americana trying to defend thair country and leaders are making my blood boil. We know, you guys can do even worse, it does not excuse the bad.
I love how the people that told you a year ago to shut up about Gaza because it was hurting Biden are now trying to guilt trip you about Gaza
"Ah yes all those dead arabs happened because of the arabs.
They brought it on themselves really. What do you mean i'm a genocide supporter?"
Where are the many leaders that, deciding to withhold support from Biden and the Democrats, sought to INCREASE support for Trump? I don’t see them.
Reducing support for one candidate lowers the threshold for the other to win, so staying home absolutely supports Trump, same with voting third party thanks to our wonderful system here
Both Trump and Biden/Harris are terrible choices for Palestine. Having said that, count the number of Palestinian casualties under Biden and the number of Palestinian casualties under Trump. I’ll wait.
Also count the number of weeks of ceasefire brokered by Trump vs Biden.
They've been waiting for our permission each time?
The problem with you yanks is that you're too far up your own asses. How predictable is it that the whole discussion under this post is about your last election. Nobody cares any more. Your country is lead by a fascist doing fascist things to you and abroad. And all you do is bicker about what happened half a year ago. Your country is wading in the waters of Rubicon, what are you going to do NOW about it?
Yeah because it's impossible to talk about two things at the same time.
What good has analyzing our past decisions and their consequences ever been for us? /s
what are you going to do NOW about it?
This mess isn't on some of us. Some of us tried very hard to prevent this outcome and now suddenly we're expected to clean up other people's fucking mess.
Nah, fuck that.
so long as trump, bibi, putin, and their sycophants are in power, pretty much every man woman and child in gaza is living on borrowed time.
They have always wait for US green light to do it and they have always had it
...yet i was told that the biden genocide was somehow worse...cake and eat it shit.....
I was told that protest voting would save Gaza, is Gaza saved? /s
I was told that protest voting would save Gaza
Nothing was going to save Gaza. That didn't mean we needed to continue being complicit. But at least centrists didn't have to consider abandoning netanyahu.
You know who could have saved gaza?
Biden, two years ago.
Scumbag
Unsupporting the red and blue party is the correct thing to do and what will ultimately lead to a positive change. The duopoly party narrative is holding on a really thin line because everyone is unsatisfied on both sides, in europe third parties win plenty of times.
If you throw your trash out of the window that isn't going to change world pollution but you don't do that because we live in a society and everyone is supposed to do his part.
Biden’s help killed more at this time, but Trump should catch up by late summer or early autumn this year. Then we can say Trump killed more than Biden.
But Trumps crimes elsewhere will eclipse this grim milestone , and I doubt most commentators here will remark on that when it happens
What a strawman of an argument you’ve created. That was never an argument being made, it was that genocide wouldn’t be any worse because genocide is genocide.
And how is this at all different from any of the strikes Biden agreed on that resulted in mass deaths?
Oh and the cake you’re laughing about? Those are children’s lives. Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.
That was never an argument being made
Bullshit. It was absolutely an argument being made. "We kNoW BiDeN sUpPoRtS gEnOcIde; MaYbE tRuMp WiLl Be BeTtEr" (paraphrased) is very much the sort of dumbass rhetoric that was being tossed around and don't you dare try to gaslight me otherwise!
because genocide is genocide.
That's dumb. Killing more people is worse than killing fewer.
Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.
Centrists are stubbornly determined to move right from here. Introspection is a threat to that, so they won't.
But thank God we stopped Harris right?
Ugh....
Just like the swift boats crowd.
lol. I commented on a post saying that Harris would likely be handling the situation better right now, and I got told by one of the pro-Palestine crazies that they hope my family gets murdered…
Harris would have said not to do it while continuing to supply them with weapons.
Harris would have said she's doing everything she can to stop this whole breaking federal laws to keep it happening.
Whatever they call themselves they are not pro-Palestine. I don't buy it. Maybe they're anti-Israel, but they ain't pro-Palestine.
And you would understand why if you had any kind of human decency.
People are mourning their dead and you come with your petty domestic political argument? How tone deaf can you be?
Yeah I didn’t get the whole “murder your family” part
You’re really doing your part yelling at a bunch of internet strangers with no control over the situation. Congrats!
If it’s so easy to fix, what are you doing to make things better?
People are mourning their dead
On a Lemmy politics forum? The fuck are you talking about?
AIPAC and it's member, known for smuggling our tax dollar for genocide.
Nixon, Iran, hostages....
Wow, the Gazan civilians must have done something really serious to merit being attacked like this, ending the cease fire...
Right? Um... right? /s
they survived? i have no snark left
The people in Gaza survived a lot better than I predicted ; but I think the mortality from all causes is huge, under reported and still minimized.
It's absolutely giving horrible what's happened and also absolutely predictable this type of behavior from Trump happened.
It's just so extremely frustrating and sad.
if the brave hamas freedom fighters weren't hiding behind them with the hostages using the gazans as human shields it would be easier
We get it, you're a Zionist
You're still holding that line? Are you not afraid of the repraisal?
I mean genocide apologia is a crime. Or it should be at least