4mo ago

America vetoes G7 proposal to combat Russia’s shadow fleet of oil tankers

www.theguardian.com

US vetoes G7 proposal to combat Russia’s shadow fleet of oil tankers

The US has rejected a Canadian proposal to establish a task force that would tackle Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet” of oil tankers, according to reports last night.

Canada, which has the current Group of Seven presidency, proposed the measure ahead of a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Quebec later this week.

In negotiations to agree a joint statement on maritime issues, the US is pushing to strengthen language about China while watering down wording on Russia, the reports said.

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4mo ago

America vetoes G7 proposal to combat Russia’s shadow fleet of oil tankers

www.theguardian.com /us-news/2025/mar/08/america-vetoes-g7-proposal-to-combat-russias-shadow-fleet-of-oil-tankers

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Correct. Nice to see headlines reflecting the complicity of the nation.
Fuck you, fix your country before we all die.
Fuck you.
- If you're waiting on Americans to storm the capital, then you're going to have to wait until a Democrat wins the presidency again.
  
  💀
  
  There's no guarantee the constitution will last long enough for there to be another election. Why are you all waiting for something that may not come?
- You act like it’s an America problem and not a billionaire problem. Where do you live that you think the same billionaires don’t own you too?
  We need to transcend nations before we all die and a handful of oligarchs have power forever.
  
  Did you mis the part about how it is a single >>NATION<< that veto'd the shadow oil fleet ban? So obviously a nation is the problem here, and of course the billionaires who have taken control of that nation.
  
  Lmao Don't act like people from the US didn't vote for exactly this. This is an America problem. Through and through. FAFO
The G7 has been compromised. EU had best work without the US now. The US is now led by a maniac who likes Putin, and wouldn't blink at betraying all the US longterm allies.
- The US is led by Putin.
  
  With a South African court jester dancing around to distract attention
  
  The US is led by Peter Thiel. Putin is there for convenience.
- The G7 has been compromised.
  Unfortunately, that's probably true for the whole world order.
  I want to hope that the new one will be better, but oftentimes history tends to disagree with that notion. Yet I'll remain fighting for a better tomorrow.
  
  Unfortunately, that's probably true for the whole world order.
  That's fortunately for us here down in the global South. Let the oppressors (which Europe also is to be clear) fight each other and leave us alone. Sucks for Ukraine though.
God fucking damn that rapist traitor and all the shitheads that put him there.
I mean apart from the logic of sanctions, those shadowfleet boats are "environmental disaster" ticking timebombs. They are not very safe or seaworthy.
Some of them have extreme strange huge anchors, which tend to drag 100 km across the oceanfloor and mysterously break critical communication cables in Europe and so. Others have dubious highend technical devices on board.
Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd.
- They're basically modern privateers - acting on behest of their leader nations, but with public deniability. Every once in a while I wonder what it would take for a Nemo-type character to show up, commandeer a submarine, and start stalking/hunting them.
- Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd. - Riddick3001
  Just out of interest, where did you hear that the boats from this shadow fleet are registered by a company in Hong Kong? There would be some irony if China would use this as the final excuse to take over Hong Kong, to "clean up the mess" that Hong Kong companies have been causing internationally.
create a new coalition of G6 let US stay in G7 alone.
- This reminds me of 2014 when it stopped being the G8.
- Fuck yeah. Pop some bottles in the ice
He needs to be impeached and the shitheads he’s put in removed.
Just kick them out already, america can get fucked
- Please keep us on the newsletter though so we can rejoin when the adults resume control
  
  Trust is gone. At least from my perspective as a Canadian
  
  we're gonna have to join as a legally distinct new nation
  
  How are they going to do that when your democracy has had it's flesh picked off it's bones?
So can we dump the USA from the g7? Make it g6
This is why veto shouldn't be a thing.
Please kick us out of the G7! Turn off our power. Tariff everything. Make us hurt - that is the only way we will get rid of trump. Once social security goes away people will finally realize what is happening
- On one hand yeah fuck the US we could do with being knocked down a bunch of pegs. On the other I worry desperate people are easy to control. It would create a very strong "us vs the world" vibe that fascists love to take advantage of.
Traitor.
Why don't they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America? The US has made it pretty clear they intend to depart NATO, and so the rest of the organization may as well just move forward regardless of what the US says.
The US position here is "We are rethinking our position here, and thus can't get involved in any new business," which to me is fair. Regardless of how anyone feels about their decision to leave, if they're deciding to leave, it makes sense to not start something that will keep them involved.
- Why don't they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America?
  It's in the article. G7 is about consensus. Doesn't mean other parties won't have their own plans.
  
  It used to be G8. Then Russia got kicked out for... Invading Crimea!
  Now that the US wants to join Russia in carving up Ukraine, it is due time to make the G6
Make it a G6. Problem solved. Russia isn't in the G7 so it shouldn't have a vote or veto in the first place. Not directly nor by proxy.
Just make it a European operation and that's it.
Blyat!

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