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Trump ‘surrendering to the Russians’ on Ukraine, top Democrat says

www.theguardian.com

Summary

Democratic Senator Jack Reed accused Trump of “surrendering to the Russians” as his administration pushes for U.S.-Russia talks over Ukraine.

Special envoy Steve Witkoff suggested Ukraine’s NATO ambitions provoked the war and declined to blame Russia.

Zelenskyy, under pressure, said he would step down for peace if Ukraine gained NATO membership.

The Trump administration denies favoring Russia and claims its strategy brings peace closer without criticizing Putin’s invasion.

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He's not "surrendering" to them - he's actively working for their benefit, as it's been clear all along he intended to do.
- Was practically a campaign promise to do Papa Putin's bidding
- Putin must have dirt on Trump. I doubt Trump cares about anyone but himself.
  
  With all the blatant proven scandals, straight up convicted felonies, and international crimes, this guy still squats in the Whitehouse. Beyond all sanity, somehow this happened. I seriously wonder what kind of dirt would actually be able to control him at this point.
  It could come out tomorrow that he hired Wagner Group personally to exterminate an entire island of indigenous people to put a golf course on it. There could be documents with his signature and recorded audio of the phone call, and that news would just blend in with the rest of his noise.
  I dunno, I think he just sees other fascists as "fellow businessmen" and has an insatiable lust after his own ego. Like it's overly simplistic maybe but "He's just evil." Seems to be an ample explanation for everything about him...
  
  Trump probably owed the money, Putin got a bunch of dirt on Trump via honeypots or documented illegal activity. I suspect now all Putin is saying is "you're touchable. Play right or the daughter ends up in a rape camp in Siberia."
- Who hate NATO? Russia. Who's trump trying to distance America from NATO
- Yes, but he obviously doesn’t care about being called a traitor. He does care immensely about being seen as weak, which this article portrays his actions as.
- That's a form of surrender, yes.
Zelenskyy, under pressure, said he would step down for peace if Ukraine gained NATO membership.
Nice counter to the 'Zelenskyy is a dictator' narrative.
this is worse than surrender. this is betrayal
- ***treason
  
  So treasonous, I could be convinced he got rid of his neck on purpose, so the hangman's noose wouldn't have anywhere to hold on to.
Trump surrendered to the Russians in 1987. He's just taking Ukraine and the rest of the USA with him this time.
- This part I'm out of the loop on. What happened in 1987?
  
  I think it's a reference to this - https://bylinetimes.com/2025/02/21/donald-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb-under-codename-krasnov-claims-former-soviet-spy-chief/
Who's Trump? Don't the mean Krasnov?
- What's the context here?
  
  "A former KGB officer alleges that Donald Trump was recruited as a Soviet spy in 1987, nicknamed 'Krasnov'."
- Big Balls and friends
To surrender to something don't you have to oppose it at some point?
It couldn’t be any clearer that the blyats own him.
"Duuuuuuuh!!!!" says literally everybody else.
Seriously, this is NOT news. This has been going on for like 8 years now.
- This is news because it needs to be broadcast loud and clear to everyone. To fight fascism you need to document and report on everything they do. It needs to be spread far and wide so there's no misunderstanding of what's going on.
You don't surrender to the people giving you your marching orders, you just hop when they tell you to hop
"under pressure", where did that come from? Not from the article.
He is Putin's beta/apprentice.
That is an entirely-distinct reality, with many far-reaching consequences.
Pretending that he is merely surrendering-to-Russia .. is suicide.
how can you surrender to a group that already owns you, bought , paid for and signed?
- Media kid gloves are infuriating
Is it really surrendering when they're on the same team?
The weak, incompetent and confused are easily lead. Putin spent a lot of time looking for this guy.
Thank you for telling me what the Republican leadership is doing.
What are YOU doing?
Was America at war with Russia?
- They somehow managed to lose without actually getting into a war. It's very impressive actually, being that bad.
This is just the ‘Russian hoax’ 2.0.

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