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Trump wants Jordan and Egypt to accept more refugees and floats plan to 'just clean out' Gaza

www.washingtonpost.com /politics/2025/01/25/trump-biden-israel-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/f1676fbc-db80-11ef-85a9-331436ec61e9_story.html

President Donald Trump says he’d like to see Arab nations increase the number of Palestinian refugees they are accepting from the Gaza Strip — potentially moving out enough of the population to “clean out” the area to create a virtual clean slate.

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“Something has to happen,” Trump said. “But it’s literally a demolition site right now. Almost everything’s demolished, and people are dying there.” He added: “So, I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations, and build housing in a different location, where they can maybe live in peace for a change.”

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Greater of two evils turns out to be greater than imagined. Protest votes in shambles, denying that this was entirely foreseeable.
- Notice how the "protest votes" have completely vanished? 🤔
  
  Public outcry over the Palestinian Genocide has never been louder and it will keep getting louder.
  
  Because the accounts who’se goal was to influence the election have done their job, they are taking a break.
  
  Because they never existed in any meaningful capacity.
  Good job being trained to hate other poor people
- There's no genocide if you're not around to fight for your land, I guess. No wars under trump - yeah, because he forces you to bend over and take it up the ass.
- Protest votes did not meaningfully impact the election
Resettling Palestinians elsewhere seems like a straightforward solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Honestly baffling no one else thought of this given how many decades this thing has been happening.
-A very stable genius, apparently
- What could possibly go wrong with the forced insertion of a group of people into a concentrated geographic region?
  
  Just stick them in Kurdistan. Land without a people for a people without a land ... I think I've seen this one before ...
  
  Jordan is already majority Palestinian. It even used to be part of the British Mandate for Palestine. Culture and language in Jordan are very close to Palestine in general.
- This should explain a lot.
- Just like Solomon, only he kills one of the women...
And who gets Gaza, Don?
I’m having trouble thinking, need some stable ~~genius~~ conqueror genocide energy.
- New Gaz-a-Lago golf course speedrun.
- Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s former White House adviser and his son-in-law, praised the “very valuable” potential of Gaza’s “waterfront property,” suggesting that Israel should remove civilians while it “cleans up” the area.
  Source.
  Further in the article he says this:
  Additionally, Kushner suggested that he “would just bulldoze something in the Negev, I would try to move people in there,” adding: “I know that won’t be the popular thing to do, but I think that’s a better option to do, so you can go in and finish the job.”
  “I think Israel’s gone way more out of their way than a lot of other countries would, to try to protect civilians from casualties,” Kushner added.
  Fucking ghoul.
- And who gets Gaza, Don?
  Jared.
Not giving civilians the chance to flee the warzone during a war is unique to this war. In any other war, civilians would have fled the country until the war is over.
Those who could afford to pay the necessary bribes to Egypt left. Most were forced to stay.
Trump says he wants to commit another genocide
Seriously, that is what that headline says, and nobody bays an eye anymore because it's trump so of course he's saying this shit
- Because it was never only about the genocide. They care more about who they wanted to blame for it. They’re conspicuously silent now that it’s trump.
So the great plan that the republicans and sit outs voted/ did not vote for as an alternative to Harris was to remove everyone from their country and force everyone else to take them as refugees? Like forced evacuation? Leave or die? Ukraine should be pretty scared right about now.
Putting the Palestinians from Gaza in other Arab countries and giving their remaining land to Israel sounds like a recipe for destruction of their national identity.
Forcible resettlements are not listed in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II, but in my opinion the essential effect would be achieved none the less.
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
- Jordan already has a majority Palestinian population. I don’t think intent to destroy fits, so it’s not genocide.
  Forced displacement and ethnic cleansing can be crimes against humanity though.
  Giving Gazans the option to relocate to Jordan voluntarily is not a crime.
  
  I didn't want to touch on the intent question, because to some degree it's not knowable from the outside and to some degree there is a multitude of intents out there. And since the resettlement already doesn't fit the "method" criteria I thought I didn't have to.
  For what it's worth I think Trump is more likely just trying to quiet the situation in a heavy handed way, for a political win, and to satisfy Israeli interests and maybe also to satisfy some interest groups local to him. I don't think he has a reason to want to destroy Palestine as a nation or identity. On the other hand he also wouldn't give much of a shit about their interests. And of course he spouts this stuff quickly, without careful analysis beforehand, as always.
  In contrast I think some of the Israeli parties, the extreme settler ones, probably would like the Palestinian Identity gone, so they can "finally" claim all the land they want to call Israel.
  As for Netanyahu, I don't know. Sometimes I felt like what he wanted most was a continued frozen conflict because it stabilizes him in domestic politics. But when the conflict heated up he changed to strongman tactics. What's next I don't understand well. Does he want to re-freeze, or find some sort of lasting resolution...
So Biden was the bad person who allowed Netanyahu to kill all those people? No. Trump will allow Israel to completely take over all Palestinian areas and either kill them all off or forcefully remove them. Netty's plan was always to take that land back for Israel.
- I don't think you realize that pointing out Trump will be worse for Palestinians (which is tragic and true) doesn't absolve Biden for failing reprehensibly to use his power in the US-Israel relationship to stem the mass killing and genocide of Palestinians.
  
  It doesn't have to. Biden and Harris being significantly less bad is enough to make them a better choice
  Trolley problem etc
well, they did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe, so they didn't. do they call that a phyrric victory? no that's egyptian. anyway, congratulations to everyone who marched on ever major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year, chanting "from the river to the sea". i wonder if that scared the bezeezus outta just middle america or all of it. anyway, enjoy your victory over "genocide joe" folks
Okay if this goes through I'll have to admit that the leopards have indeed eaten faces.
It's actually a good idea.
- I hope Trump bans all your genders.
  Funny enough, this is the second time in as many days that I've seen one of you people specifically singling out LGBTQ+ people in your little temper tantrums. Makes it pretty obvious that Palestine was just your excuse to welcome the christian nationalists in. You see, we suspected that you didn't care before but now it appears your masks are slipping off.
  
  Some other asshole told someone with a trans kid that they should care about Palestinians more than their son.
  And when I pointedly asked that person (as I often do in these situations) what specifically they have done about this genocide other than berate people for not caring as much as they do, they did not answer. I never get an answer. As if it's a challenge to send form letters to politicians, but they don't even bother doing that. Easier to sit on their ass and tell other people how awful they are.
  
  Most of them clearly didn't even know what Palestine even was prior to October 7, and others still, aren't aware that the West Bank is even a fucking thing.
  They're clueless.
- Settle down love, he already has.
- So we'll all be nonbinary?
  
  Gender on my DL: human.
  I'm a cishet male, but I'm 100% ok with this. Only medical doctors really need to know anyhow

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