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Eight years ago 500,000 marched in DC against Trump. He has returned and so has the protest - just on a smaller scale

www.independent.co.uk

Eight years after the Women’s March, a new protest is planned for Trump’s return

Summary

Organizers of the 2017 Women’s March are planning the "People's March" on January 18, 2025, ahead of Donald Trump’s second inauguration.

Unlike the record-breaking 2017 protest with 500,000 people, this multi-issue demonstration, addressing abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, climate change, and more, expects a smaller turnout of 50,000.

Organizers acknowledge shifting political dynamics and aim to build a sustainable movement by connecting participants with advocacy organizations.

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I’m anxious to see entire cities and states ignore the dude.
- NYC - Eric Adams is straight up a trumper
  
  If you like hating Eric Adams, I highly recommend the Eric Adams takes/episode from the If Books Could Kill Podcast.
  
  and at the same time, Eric Adams is somehow a democrat. But I'm told the party leaders didnt turn right, the Dem voters did, or some such nonsense?
- Anxious or excited?
  
  I mean generally the central administration of a state getting weaker is not a good sign.
  
  I’m concerned about the next 4 years.
- At least for DC it was near freezing and rainy yesterday, so I suspect that significantly lowered turnout.
well it worked so well the first time
- Resistance to Trump was fairly successful. It's one reason his first administration was so ineffective.
  It's kind of scary that people are responding so passively and pessimistically this time. We need to rally and energize if we're going to make it through the next 4 years and protect the people his administration seeks to harm.
  
  At that time his own administration fought against him. This time round we don’t have that. We also lost house senate and the courts.
  We are fucked. Enjoy the ride.
  
  I don’t disagree with you, but things are different this time around.
  They learned, regrouped, and have an actual plan. They’re also emboldened because they won the popular vote.
  Trump seems unable to actually face consequences for his many wide-ranging crimes. He will never see justice. People are resigned that no matter what he does in life, punishment will never come for him. It’s easy to feel resigned when you’re up against someone like that and there’s no more hope to be had.
  
  It’s kind of scary that people are responding so passively and pessimistically this time.
  I'm arguably part of the problem here. The fact that he won again, and that Dems ran the 2016 playbook again, and that they have openly moved to the right on various issues since 2020, and will probably run the 2016 playbook again in 2028 even if they would deserve another vote, has really just taken the wind out of my sails.
  edit the they
  
  It's one reason his first administration was so ineffective.
  They were ineffective because they're incompetent.
  
  I love supporting protests and am quick to point out how they can shift attitudes (e.g. occupy) but I would struggle to say one positive result from the pussy hat protest. Can you help me there?
  If I had to guess, I would say it helped him with his base more than hurt him or helped the opposition/our side rally support.
  The protests against his abusive anti-protest tactics were a lot more successful in rallying support on our side, for example. Didn't last more than a couple months, but still
  
  And what? Put our faith in democrats again. Democrats who had every opportunity to stop this insanity and they put up the most pathetic fight I've ever seen. Tripping over themselves to show they have no problem transferring power to fascists. I don't know how you don't see it. Trump didn't gain any voters in 2024. The DNC didn't show up.
Don't worry, I was told that a second Trump administration would rejuvenate the enthusiasm of the American left-wing to oppose government tyranny
/s
- The same people peddling that argument, sadly, will assert, unironically, "Thalmann did nothing wrong".
  There's no getting through to them. They're as blinkered and evidence-averse as the conservatives they claim to oppose.
  
  Awkward that we just finished a genocide under dem leadership though isnt it. Spit on the accelerationist argument all you want, but you cant deny that things are badly broken when the dem leadership and their centrist toadies are the ones doing it-- all for some campaign money. Accelerationists have a very solid point when you consider that.
- We only got a second trump term because the center wing of the party was so disinterested in opposing it.
Protesting trump will do nothing. People should be marching in the street protesting the stupidity of the people who voted for him. They will be the end of our freedoms. It's a cult!
- I plan to write a sternly worded memo on my grievances and mail it straight to a white house intern.
  /s
- Do you always swallow propaganda designed to target your anger against other poor people?
  
  Just to be clear, I am not, nor did I ever say that poor people are stupid. Stupid people have every range of income, as do smart people. Having or lacking money does not determine your intelligence level. Elon musk has a fuck-ton of money and is one of the dumbest people to ever live on Earth. Maga is a cult and only stupid people fall into it.
I went to the March for Science and was glad I did. It was cold and rainy but everyone was having a good time. Got to hear some great speakers and geek out with other scientists. It was really encouraging to see the scientific community come together. I'm hoping we will see more of that this time around.
Damnit I wish I had known about this sooner. I’m traveling tomorrow and this is important.
Wait until it's warm and he has to be in DC, then organize the march, also make it a gun show
Protesting against democracy, that's a good look.
- Protesting is democracy 🙄
- I don't think you understand how dictatorships work.
- Sure, but we've been BSing each other about the fact that we have a democracy at all anyway.
  "Princeton University study: Public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law." https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
  No one debates the veracity of that study, and arguably, that detachedness is why the dems lost in every single demographic in the last election, except for a 1% gain in college educated white men. Its past time we started talking about the fact that we dont live in a democracy.
- Protesting the incoming kleptocratic, kakistocratic oligarchy. Not the democracy they want to do away with.

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