Apple allegedly arguing iMessage isn't big enough to be EU gatekeeper service
Apple allegedly arguing iMessage isn't big enough to be EU gatekeeper service
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Apple allegedly argues iMessage not a gatekeeper service in EU
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They're not wrong. Barely anyone uses iMessage.
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*outside of the US
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🤣🤣🤣
They don’t believe that for a second. They just want to keep that lock in.
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No they do believe that, because in Europe that is kinda true. You might find someone who uses iMessage if you go to the UK, but in mainland Europe iMessage is the same as GoogleMessages it is „the SMS app“. In modern days it is receiving messages only for most people.
FaceTime is another app that is hugely popular in the US but has almost no users in Europe.
But in the end it is installed on all iPhones so they will fall under the rule, which is not a bad thing.
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I don’t know anyone in the UK that actually uses it as iMessage and not just as the SMS app.
I think this goes back to the time of 3G pay monthly SIMs (before the iPhone) that would come with unlimited data, but limited texts. That pushed people to use apps like WhatsApp that basically just allowed unlimited texts.
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If what you and others are saying is true, that only a small number use iMessage, then that supports Apple’s claim and there’s no need to open it since not many people use it.
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If Apple's iMessage does fall under the DMA ruleset, it means Apple will be required to open iMessage to third-party operators.
What does this look like in practice?
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That is not clear yet, since the law does not specify the protocol needed to make that happen. The law forces them to make the messenger interoperable while keeping features like E2E encryption. Basically like ActivitPub with more security / privacy features.
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It could mean they make iMessage compatible with RCS for fucking once. Which would actually be a good thing for all Apple users.
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They turn off iMessage in Europe. Or have argue it’s ability to fall back to SMS meets this. Or the industry invents a protocol that they all use and iMessage gets a new colored bubble.
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What does this look like in practice?
An endless sea of spam that Apple is legally required to deliver.
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Fuck apple, give them hell
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Why are you getting downvoted wtf is wrong with lemmy? Apple is literally the largest shittiest company in the world.
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tbf, Apple‘s iMessage dominance is mostly a US based phenomenon. In European countries, many people use WhatsApp and telegram. Anecdotal evidence: I don’t know anybody using iMessage.
Same, I don’t know anyone using iMessage and I’m deep into Apple circles.
Same in France. Apple or not, it’s still mostly WhatsApp and a bit of Telegram around me. Only old iPhone users who haven’t installed anything are using iMessage because it’s the default application.
People in each country used whatever everyone else is using. In the US that became text/iMessage. This was partially driven by the way cell companies charged in the US with free texts but limits on data (iMessage uses data, but it came later).
In other countries the better at the time options won out. We talk to our friends in Europe and Africa with WhatsApp.
That’s not quite what I see in France. Many people use Whatsapp to text friends/family when they’re abroad. But everyday, I mostly see classic SMS texts (or iMessage)