7mo ago

Sad State Of Anti Cheat On Linux

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Anti cheat with kernel privileges? no, thanks.
- i have no problem with privileged code or trusted computer code as long as it's open source, open protocols and managed by an open foundation of some sort
- Serious question, how does this work on Linux when using wine? Elden ring uses this one and it runs in Linux. It doesn't have kernel access does it?
  
  EAC on Linux uses special runtime usually provided by Steam and it runs in userspace. However, developers have to whitelist said runtime and that's where the issue is
You can't solve cheating on the client.
- Exactly. But it's the cheapest solution for the studio/publisher and most gamers blindly accept it, with some even actively defending the practice.
  
  It is also insecure with possiblity to crash your computer, the only advantage is that it is cheap.
- I don't think there's a way to solve it on the server either.
  
  There absolutely is, it just takes effort. Many MMOs do this, and as a result almost all of them are playable on linux.
  
  Solving it on the client is literally impossible, solving it on the server is difficult and could be impossible, big difference.
  It's like someone trying to send a car to the moon by pulling the steering wheel. It's impossible, the fact that building a rocket is hard or that you don't know how to do it or that it could fail has no bearing on the fact that trying to pull the steering wheel on a car is definitely the wrong way to go about it.
  In the same manner solving cheating on the client is the same kind of impossible, anyone defending it sounds like a flat-earther to anyone with the basic knowledge of client/server architecture.
Stop giving EA money. It's not that hard. I haven't given them money for 10 years.
- This is the way... The last battlefield... I am still salty
  
  What's wrong about Battlefield 3?
- Same, I stopped giving them money exactly 10 years ago, since they killed Dawngate, my beloved.
Simple solution. Don't buy those games.
- Boycott PUBG and Rainbow Six Siege
  
  No problem for me.
In a never-ending arms race what can they hope to achieve by imprisoning a minority just in case they're more likely to be a spy?
Would like to see attempts to approach cheating in a non-hopeless way.
If a company says it doesn't want my money, I am happy to oblige.
- But Vms require 2 Gpus there is no GPU sharing like windows
Isn't it sus there is no Open Source Anti-Cheat Solution and most of them are proprietary( I am fine with proprietary software but just wondering about this) + I wonder if in the future EAC or Battle Eye will force the user to Install DKMS modules.
kinda wacky how most games run better on linux but the devs fuck us by using anti-cheat that doesn't work and makes the game not run
You could always... you know... buy either a "work-only" PC (something like a Orange pi 5 max) or a "Windows PC" to play these games?
t. Got three "computers" with different functions and I'm about to have a 4th one.

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