Quite an explosive finish
Quite an explosive finish
Quite an explosive finish
baseball.
The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.
That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).
Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.
That's a reason for then not now.
Better question is then why didn't Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more "modern" looking grenades?
And the answer is NOT "baseball". The answer is that they're too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.
The answer is it simplified NATO logistics
Pray we don't simplify it further
It's actually that they're more expensive when you add the frag jacket to them. There cheaper to produce but logistically more expensive being larger and multi part.
Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?
Knife juggler here, so I have a lot of experience throwing off-CG objects...
It's not really that different from throwing a baseball. It's a little more difficult to catch, but with very little practice ( like 5 or 10 minutes) you'll be able to do it. That being said, I think the "baseball" style grenades where adopted because they can fit through smaller openings, you can roll or tumble them towards your target, they're harder to see, and harder to scoop up and throw back.
we are so lucky that basketball wasn't as popular back then
Balloons full of explosive gas.
I thought it was American football as the design is more shaped to be more closely resembling a hand held size 🏈
American football was simply more popular back then too, but a little less now in terms of ratio, but the crowd has still grown instead of shrinking/stagnantion
A football is WAY bigger than a grenade, and football was way less popular in the 40s because 1. Baseball came first and 2. Baseball is better in person and TVs sucked. Even if more people play football now, it's still better to design grenades around baseballs because you spend more time practicing with a ball in baseball, and only one person per team knows how to throw a football.
In my opinion I think it's more likely for someone to have played baseball then football
Cause football needs alot more prep when baseball can be just a random school activity
Note: I'm not athletic at all and this is just based on my personal experiences
The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
Also they're way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport
throw a parachute on it so it's aligned vertically, make it detonate when it lands, make it blow straight down as opposed to all over the place, and try to get that thing to land on a tank
You've basically just described a HEAT round without the melted copper penetrator.
I would assume in bunkers you don't want to try to throw the stick version through the small slits or windows.
close quarters kinds of environments where the grenade on a stick just doesn't work!
Counterpoint: Team Fortress 2 - Caberknight
Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations
A minor addendum, the M24 and M43 stick grenades both had fragmentation sleeves produced for them. These could be quickly fitted over the grenades to change them from offensive to defensive grenades. Similar to the RGD-33 stick grenades used by the Soviets.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
The difference between offensive and defensive grenades is defined by how much fragmentation they produce. Without a fragmentation sleeve, a German stick grenade produces blast and concussion but very minimal fragmentation, making it's practical danger area smaller. This is good for an offensive grenade where the person throwing it likely has less cover than the person receiving it. A defensive grenade produces fragmentation, and is desired when the person throwing it has cover to hide behind safely.
The non-stick grenade commonly used by the Germans in WW2, was the Model 39 ("egg grenade"), and it actually came in both offensive and defensive flavors. So really, either a stick or egg grenade could be used for either role.
Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
Hmm...defensive hand grenades. There's something crazy I've wondered before; is there anywhere it's legal to use hand-grenades as a form of home defense?
Let's say you live on a big property in the middle of nowhere, like a ranch out in West Texas. So you know that if you detonate a hand grenade on your property, you can be absolutely sure that the fragments won't fly through your walls and hit a neighbor. Let's say you live alone, and you're so stupid wealthy that you don't give a damn about grenade damage in your own home.
Imagine this is true. Is there anywhere in the US you could legally keep a crate of hand grenades in a gun safe, and just start chucking them at a home invader?
We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.
An atlatl for grenades!
A splatlatl, if you will.
Ooh good idea. While were at it, why not train some Jai Alai players to be grenadiers.
What a sick idea. You should always use balls to play fetch with dogs, grenades are way too expensive.
I'm pretty sure you can carry at least 3 of them
3/4 of volume is taken by wood, what are you, russian logistics officer?
also no way to attach spoon-type igniter, this thing is properly ancient design
The fun part is they used to be shipped without the ignitor installed so a lot of the duds were simply because people didn't follow instructions and didn't grab the little tin filled with ignitors.
Can give you pleasure
Idk, the round ones do just fine for me, just a bit different form of pleasure.
Pineapples are ribbed for pleasure
If you shit out a ring, you'd best hope you haven't been skipping your kegels.
And you can choose if you want a tail or an inside tickle.
I just tie a sting around those little rings so I don't lose the pineapples & can safely pull them out again.
How about just clubbing someone with a live explosive?
This only works if you are black and Scottish
They got more **** ******** ***** **** *** ******* than they got the likes of me.
can give you pleasure
Are we saying blowing stuff up is fun, or telling you to go fuck yourself with a grenade?
Yes.
Too many people tried using them as hammers.
TNT filler is very stable. It's fine. I mean, the grenades would not be great as hammers, but they won't explode at a touch.
Not sure if you're joking but the German Stielhandgranate was literally nicknamed "potato masher" by soldiers, so there may be some truth to that
Why not regular pineapples and a lacrosse stick or an ahtlatl?
Or you know, an M203 Grenade Launcher.
It is such a pain to summon the time portal to use that in WW2.
Bcs electricians kept using them as hammers.
I thought these linemens looked weird
Clearly their biggest weakness was not being heavy enough. I suggest the next generation have a baseball bat for a handle.
You can bonk someone with it as well.
Bombcock, bombcock,
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send your asshole into shock ...
aka potato masher
Really basic overviews incase anyone is vaguely curious
the boys i mean are not refined
Let me go further: spikes.
This destroys the butthole.
Ooh, bonus shrapnel!
count to ten
SPIKES
Thanks chief
Barbed for my pleasure uwu
What in the Call of Duty is this shit?
They're from Halo
I'd be tempted to use it as a mace... Probably a poor choice.
Needs a spike on the handle for that lawn dart aesthetic
Anything can be a dildo if you are brave enought