Hyundai unveils world’s first hydrogen-powered, silent stealth battle tank

Famously transporting large volumes of hydrogen has never gone wrong and hydrogen charging stations have proven very reliable and also hydrogen as an alternative to electric is definitely not a ploy by big oil to keep drilling for fossil fuels!

Good job hyundai 👍 Very credible 👍🏿

No no, it’s credible because it decreases the ground weight, and if you fill it up enough, it can just float over AT mines 🤓
In the case of military vehicles, hydrogen is about the greenest option that we're gonna get. No one is going to make a battery powered AFV, because where the fuck would you charge it?
- Who if not the Germans built an electric tank in 2020 https://efahrer.chip.de/news/geraeuschlose-einsaetze-weltweit-erster-elektro-panzer-kommt-aus-deutschland_103179
  Sounds crazy at first but comes with some good advantages: it can cross rivers as it doesn’t need air for combustion, it’s silent, and you can load it anywhere at the battle field if you have solar panels, time and sun. Still you can rely on military logistics to carry a swap battery. But isn’t the military supply chain the first target to disrupt? My two cents, this is the next thing at battle fields.
  Oh, and if all your equipment runs on electricity, you can load and reload power at your needs. Tank needs power but car not? Combat robot out if power and car is full? Transfer the power
- Isn’t hydrogen even more flammable and explosive than petroleum. Just seems like a dumb idea to put that in a military vehicle.
- You'd probably want a quick swap battery and charging far from the front lines.
- Just put solar panels on top, easy.
My dude, the military transports more volatile materials than hydrogen every day. Just because something doesn't make sense for civilian use doesn't mean it's never going to be viable for military use.
If you're worried about the dangers of transporting something like hydrogen, you're going to lose it when you find out what bombs are made out of.
Electric motors are just more efficient in just about every way at scale, the current diesel motors being used in tanks aren't really able to be improved upon. They're at their technological peak, so the only way to move forward with mbt is by figuring out how to make electric motors work.
- An unarmed bomb can be dropped from cruising altitude onto a hard surface and not detonate. The US military has had nukes fall out of planes without breaching the radioactive core.
  Also, the energy density of hydrogen is pretty poor, diesel electric hybrid on the other hand is a proven technology.
Military vehicles are purpose built. They didn't use hydrogen because it was green, they used it to fulfill their requirements for a silent stealth battle tank. But I'm sure your technical knowledge far outdoes that of the people involved in designing this tank 👍 Very credible 👍🏿
Fuel cell technology will also dramatically reduce the noise the tank generates when on the move.
Literally from the article you failed to open.
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hydrogen as an alternative to electric is definitely not a ploy by big oil to keep drilling for fossil fuels!
What are you talking about?
- Basically all of hydrogen production is sourced from fossil fuels.
H2 tanks are safer than diesel. It would make a superior tank to diesel in most ways. Quiet, electronics power, portable solar charging in forward position, H2 production in solar rear stations. In war, having all of your large oil refineries and port handling blown up the first day is common, and decentralized and portable H2 production is an important asset.
ROK while leading on H2, is way behind on both solar transition projects/roadpath and have abandoned solar technology themselves. Government does serve its industrial champions but also serves US master. US wants to subjugate colonies to its NG. Industrial champion needs clean energy independence.
- Do you even realize how much energy is needed to produce significant amounts of hydrogen and then compressing it to a useful pressure? FOB solar isn't going to cut it. Decentralized H2 production isn't a viable thing without fossil fuels or a working power grid.

Does noise really matter that much on a modern battlefield with one surveillance drone every 200 meters?

the other feature is low to no heat, so these things are like tank drop bears
- drop bears
  Instance checks out
- Yeah, it would make them a lot harder to spot on infra red cameras.
Pretty chill for the operators at least. Tanks are loud as fuck
Most NATO countries are assuming air dominance, which would make drones less survivable. They really thrive in a contested environment.
- I don't know that NATO's assumption of air dominance is actually applicable. You're not putting a F-35 on anti-drone swarm duties.
  If anything you'd want to focus on anti-air.

The next-generation tank will have stronger preemptive strike capabilities using an artificial intelligence-based fire control system

Well that's disturbing. I wonder what level of buzz word AI this is? Safe to assume computer vision is involved, target/threat identification... Does "preemptive strike" imply the fire control system is firing by itself? I know it's not the case but it's hilarious to imagine it's ChatGPT doing it.

My heart smiles at the thought of the first crew to actually command this thing in a war zone pulling security on some unknown pile of rubble and being awoken at 0347 by their tank unexpectedly dumping its entire payload on an "enemy" that it hallucinated.
Granted, dumb privates do this too, but it's funnier to think about the tank doing it all by itself.
- This could even be exploited by putting decoys in the landscape the AI recognizes as enemies.

Holy fuck that's a sexy tank

It looks like a miniature
it looks like a bastard kid of PL01 and Abrams-X
This is what I wish the cyber truck was more like ... Not that I would ever buy a Tesla but this thing is perfect for futuristic... Now make it a car... But also fuck cars
- What if it had hydrogen cells instead?

Can't wait to see what the N-Line will look like

It's beautiful and I want one.

Maybe Pepsi will do a new challenge
It looks like a piece of EGO brand lawn equipment (which I also like the look of).

I am waiting for the non-destructible forever Toyota tank. Just make sure insurgents dont get their hands on one.

powered by hydrogen fuel cells

I don't think the logistics for hydrogen fuel cells will help in actual combat situations, though it's expected to enter operation in 2040 anyway.

autonomous driving and slave drones

Hopefully one that actually works. As for the drones, I guess for reconnaissance?

You can load a truck with fuel cells to extend range beyond what the current infrastructure can handle.
It's more complicated with batteries that need to be charged. Sure, there's a grid in many places, but if combat capability depends on the grid, it'll get targetted. And even before that, capacity is a concern and if the grid can handle a tank battalion wanting to plug in every tank so they can be ready for whatever comes next ASAP.
Fuel cells mean they can set up behind the front lines and use power more predictably and refuel tanks quicker than gas.
- I never really understood what fuel cells have to do with hydrogen, and why it's a more appealing form factor than removing a vehicle's gas tank and instead just putting in a manifold with room for a number of some standard of gas can with valves fitted. It's not an inherently "hydrogen" thing.
  Besides, it's fully possible to set up a bunch of gas cans from a truck in the same way you could set up a bunch of hydrogen "fuel cells".

If in video standards the decision made by the porn industry is decisive, I believe that in the energies of the future the decision made by the military industry will be the one that prevails.

I'll eat my socks if hydrogen powered tanks are actually purchased by any military. Hydrogen will literally never be a viable transportation fuel
- I don't have enough knowledge to argue with your words. A couple of years ago Germany introduced an electric tank. When the armies make requests for one option or another we will have the real answer
The navies of the world love nuclear power, the U.S. has a nuclear navy since the 50s and in that time our investment into civilian nuclear has been pathetic
- For ships it may be fine, but I don't see ground vehicles or fighters operating with nuclear energy, it could be, but until I see it I will have a hard time believing it.

Hyundai?

Yes, Hyundai.

The big players in military tech aren't just the likes of Raytheon and such, it's also companies like Hyundai, Samsung, Texas Instruments (a little obvious for those who know, but many people are surprised about that calculator company being at the heart of so much military technology). Power plants and transmissions for tanks and such are made by General Electric, Allison, Cummings, etc. General Motors has a military division for small tactical vehicles (think Humvee)
Hell, IBM supplied computers to the Nazi regime that were used to tabulate prisoners at the concentration camps and those machines were used to produce the serial numbers tattooed on them. Most semiconductor research breakthroughs came as a result of military funding.

That a few thousand dollar drone will obliterate.

More like few hundred. Slap an old rpg on an fpv and there you go.

What RTS is this from?

No one here but us trees

My brain just doesn't want to accept the idea of a stealth tank. It kind of feels like building a stealth monster truck, or creating sugar free Pez. It's like being loud is part of what it's supposed to do.

Not to fet credible, but from a treeline 2km away a properly disguised tank can be pretty stealthy. Same concept of stealth aircraft, yeah if its close you're gonna see it, but if passive and active sensors can pick it up till visual range, well mighty fine way to sneak a platoon of tanks into an otherwise 'observed' area while looking like little more than a couple of civilian vehicles or migrating animals to a radar, or dull spot to thermals.

Capable of the highest next-generation turret toss!

Ooh sexy

Idk it looks a little plasticy. Fake armor implants are great sometimes but you don't want a whole division of it.