10mo ago

Liz Cheney campaigns with Kamala Harris for first time, as campaign continues GOP outreach

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10mo ago

Liz Cheney campaigns with Kamala Harris for first time, as campaign continues GOP outreach

www.cbsnews.com /news/kamala-harris-campaign-liz-cheney-wisconsin-republicans/

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This is so weird
- Not really, people try to get defectors from the opposite party in every election
- Indeed. You would think the Democrats would go after independents and leftists/progressive voters instead of shifting to the right.
  
  The right has moved so far to the right that the "independents" are the ones that used to be right. That's why you're seeing all these pre Trump Neo Cons supporting Harris. They're trying to target people like my mom. People that don't like Trump but are still "Republican".
  
  It just isn’t as good of a political strategy to go after progressives, who the DNC knows overwhelmingly vote dem regardless. The number of leftists who won’t vote for the democrats just isn’t high enough for them to care, which unfortunately means they pivot towards moderates, independents, and moderate republicans in basically every election
  
  They are going after people who vote
Is there any coming back from a deal with the devil?
Morally pure ideologues that refuse to work with others enjoy all the benefits of knowing they are right while making none of the decisions. Democracies involve consensus and coalition building.
- This is the strategy that Democrats have followed since 1988. In that time, the Overton window has relentlessly shifted to the right. It is the dynamic that makes it politically practical for Republicans to also relentlessly shift further right. It’s a positive feedback loop that eventually spirals toward fascism. Just examine the last four decades. It’s right there.
  It’s not ‘consensus building’ when the other party has a principled opposition to consensus. It’s just a pre-negotiated concession. It is a lack leadership. That is the Democratic Party in a nutshell.
  
  It's not a "strategy", it's literally how democracy works. You need 50% + 1 or all the moral purity in the universe means nothing. If the far left continues to never work as a coalition then the left is forced to move to the middle. Don't get me wrong, most of my views are pretty far left, I just understand how democracy works...
Fuck You Cheney.
If you and everyone you know could convince your GOP family members to either vote Democrat or just to sit this one out, and say so in the polls beforehand, the Dems wouldn't have to court the disaffected Republicans this way. There's not enough hard leftists to sway the election, even if they could all be mobilized to vote for Harris.
- I would wager that there's more people on the left disillusioned with the Democrats over their Israel policy than there are Republicans who would be swayed by Liz Cheney.
- This is why centrists exist. We vote left currently, because of insane people on the right who take advantage of the weakness of partisan mentalities.
"both parties"
As if supporting the Israeli genocide wasnt enough, now Harris is proudly campaigning with a family of war criminals.
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