It's so much easier to comment on Lemmy because it isn't a toxic cesspool waiting to tear you apart

That was a very insightful point and I appreciate your delicacy in delivering it. Congratulations.

i used to love r/yourjokebutworse when it was still new. then people started doing the exact same thing in the comments that they were making fun of. im jerking myself off writing this i know

So many posts right now are "DAE think Lemmy > Reddit?" If anything, people are more anonymous here, so it is only a matter of time before the amount of users brings in more toxicity. But just like reddit, users can avoid toxicity outrage baiting, and other issues by joining better (smaller) communities instead of echo chambers.

I've seen way more arguing than agreeing, but maybe it's the communities I frequent.

Same here m8.

I love how the number of upvotes on this comment speak to the point your making. And now so am I (former lurker)

I have lurked for over a decade on Reddit and finally see value in commenting/posting on Lemmy because the engagement is great!

That's why you gotta hijack comments that are already upvoted.

This, most of my reddit feed has posts with thousands of comments already. Here, I feel more a part of the conversation.

Habitual reddit lurker checking in! Commenting on Lemmy bc I want to be a part of something. So far everyone here has been very nice.

I've been trying my best to reply to such comments with kindness and what they could have done to make their comment more constructive. Lot's of people react on emotion and sometimes they just need a bit of guidance to engage constructively. Others that are both unhelpful and rude get a report also.

You should just block those people when you come across them.

Eventually you'll start seeing them less and less.

There is always a balance between quantity and quality.

Defederation will likely be a useful tool if we start growing too big. But also reddit, Facebook, twitter will still exist and capture the worst users.

I believe there is a critical mass of smart people that can repel idiots from a platform, which we have and need to protect. But that's just my intuition, I'm not really sure.

Just you wait m8.

Downvoting here seems to be used as it is meant to: to filter out noise.

I love the vibe.

Yeah, I don't know what op is on about, I've already seen rabid toxicity here.

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Big. Meaty. Claws.

I said you're wonderful stranger. Keep being you (unless you are a dickhead. But I'm sure you're not)

I think that is because all those sites (youtube, twitter, facebook, reddit,...) are promoting "user engagement" or whatever they call it, so they made algorithms that promote it. Of course, that means they promote toxicity and agruments, easiest way to motivate people to comment.

So the whole network becomea unhealthy and toxic.

That's also the reason I am against federating with them.

I’ve been at various points on reddit where I would open the replies in a background tab and just close it without reading them… or, and maybe this sounds weird, hold my hand up over replies so I could screen them without reading them so I could ignore insulting or provocative replies and not be tempted to engage.

I think the transparency goes a long way to keeping the platform (instances) high quality.

Or you just got downvoted into oblivion for no specific reason.

Can't tell if this comment is meant to be ironic

Agree.

I agree with this. I honestly have no idea what people are convinced things are that much better lol. Feels no different than any post on Reddit.

Almost like its the same people in both.

And if anything, I already see click bait being perpetuated everywhere with massive upvotes. Misinformation is already starting. The one Threads post about Shadow accounts, clickbait title that Meta is creating shadow accounts for people. Hundreds of upvotes. No, it's called your instagram account, and its no secret.

I've commented plenty enough but did definitely decide often that it wasn't worth it. I do try to consider people's interpretations of things I say, but words still don't always come out as intended. Sometimes I'd hava a hit. Occasionally I'd be down voted somewhat heavily. Usually I'm stressing over what I say and it gets maybe 10 upvotes..

At this point I'll probably still do that contemplating before posting thing, because frankly, despite it not really impacting my life, it can still hurt to be down voted on a comment you carefully wrote and curated.

Absolutely. I can make nuanced statements and "technically this is right but" comments without massive hate. And from what I've seen, the "hey this title is misleading here's what's really going on" sits near the top. It's so refreshing.

Me about to tear this guy apart:

No, you! Grabs pitchfork.

There's also a good life social tip of that to make friends you probably shouldn't discuss politics, it just creates division. But if you do tend to slide in with "man this thing is happening and it's totally fucked because x, y, z" you get them to see it without a political lense and people agree significantly more. Just don't mention political parties.

Gotta stir the pot sometimes. Those guys are easy to rile up.

Or ask questions in general, the reddit community HATES questions for some reason.

Or criticize certain political stances.

Jynx?

One big reason I don't really want it to be too successful.

In my view, big tech was actually pretty ok until politicians and companies realized they were large influence markets and started messing with them. It doesn't matter left or right, at that point the platform is broken because you've got all kinds of special interests spending money to push their thing.

If it can be big enough to be fun but small enough to fly under the radar, mission accomplished.