joining the fediverse to bitch about reddit is the same as going on a date, and spending the whole night talking about your ex

So... Are we on a date? 😳

I don’t mean to be rude OP, but your entire contribution to lemmy has been 5 comments and this single post about Reddit. In order to gain traction as a viable alternative to Reddit we need OC and active participation in the comment section. Be the change you want to see and lead by example - start posting interesting non-Reddit related stuff yourself. The more people that do, the better lemmy will be.

I think we need to start poaching video content from reddit and posting it here. Stuff like HoldMyBeer, StartledCats, etc. There's so much content for the taking, I don't think we should get stuck on OC. In this stage we just need content. I'm seriously considering starting a cat sub or holdmybeer sub, and stealing all the content from reddit until people starting posting their own contributions.
- One should stress that it should be good content though. One of our strengths at this time is the reduced number of bots and more active contributors.
  There is plenty of content out there however, and I started sharing some of my favorite links with the smaller communities. Doing my part.
- I agree. I should have said “make new posts” rather than OC. When I first joined I used my last days of Apollo access to copy over a few of my favourite BORU posts as the community was otherwise empty. I also started c/dontyouknowwhoiam@lemmy.word and reposted some of the old classics to get the community started. I don’t think lemmy should just be Reddit on another site, but it’s a good place to start while we build the site up.
- I'm with you, honestly how do you think that content got to reddit in the first place? Sure there's some original content there but 99% of the site is just reposts people got from other sites - and porn. Bring some porn back with you if you have space
- Strongly agree.
Yeah, the bitching about people bitching about Reddit is far more annoying than just the bitching about Reddit.
- It reminds me of the occasional times where a corporate email would be sent out improperly to "all" in our company. A few people would reply all: "take me off this list". Then someone would reply all to those guys: "don't reply all". Then other people would reply all:"you are spamming the whole company!", etc.
  It would take an hour or so to die off, but It was kind of amusing to see people react to the chaos. I assume the bitching about Reddit will die off naturally.
- Agreed, it's also just a very Reddit poster thing to do ironically.
Man used it for one week, bitched about what ppl used it for and left
Likewise- this is literally another reddit post....
The OP is complaining about all the Reddit bitching on his front page. There is some control over the looks of one's front page in profile settings. If set to "All", then yeah there's going to be a lot of stuff outside of interest on the front page. My front page is set to "Subscribed" so I have to intentionally look for that stuff if I want to see it.
The way to use Lemmy is to subscribe to communities with content of interest and use the the subscribed view. Maybe this is more a case of someone new to Lemmy not understanding the best way to use Lemmy.
- Can I see most posts being from the communities I have subscribed at while still introducing stuff from communities I haven't signed up for?
  Seeing new stuff usually is good in life =)
- I tried to give OP the benefit of the doubt by providing practical ways he could make a positive impact if he was being genuine, but I think I was being naïve. He’d been on lemmy for the best part of a week before he posted this. No way in hell he hadn’t come across the many posts complaining about the same thing. Plus his reply to me was very Reddit-like. Passive aggressive at best, antagonistic at worst. I’d become used to people being a little nicer and more genuine in the few weeks I’ve been here!
  There something I don’t really understand about karma vs plain upvotes on lemmy. I know you needed a certain amount of karma to post in some subs, but it was never very much from what I recall. After you’d reached 2k at most, it didn’t have any value beyond social validation. Karma farmers didn’t do it for any real benefit, it just made them feel good. Won’t lemmy upvotes just be the same? You still get an upvote tally on your profile, you still get the dopamine boost from a thousand of people agreeing with you. Why do we assume (and hope) that karma/point farming won’t continue on this platform?
You trying to guilt people into generating content? Lol.
This isn’t a job. This is for leisure. No one should force it.

Hard disagree. The Reddit situation is a huge news story even for people who aren’t on Reddit.

Also you wouldn’t bring up an ex on a first date because you’re trying to impress the new person. However you would definitely talk about her to friends and family if it was an upsetting situation for you. Reddit was a big part of my life and it fucking sucks what happened To it

I think there is a thin line there, which has been crossed.
Talking about Reddit drama is fine. But when 90% of the posts here are all about Reddit (or Meta/Twitter vs Mastodon) it seems to me that people are just salty.
I came here because I gave up on Reddit, and I am looking for a reddit substitute. What I wish is to find here the content I would normally find there, so that I am not forced to move back to that wonderful website, sadly managed by shitlords (as the other 100% of profit driven websites. A lesson hard learned).
But if my feed is spammed by 90% stuff about Reddit and nothing else, that is not the way to growth or make people stick around.
- Totally. But the reddit discussions will naturally die down and/or be contained in the "reddit sucks" specific subreddits (I think they are called "Communities" on most instances? Sorry - still learning). But either way it's a hot topic right now and, as you said, people are angry, hurt, and want a place to vent. I like that we have that space and can discuss together.
Yeah, it's so far from bringing up an ex on a new date. I assume most people here are 'an ex' of reddit. It's more like a group of friends in a new bar talking shit about a bar they used to go to. Which is completely unproblematic and natural. The new bar doesn't give a shit, and the friend group gets to vent.

It's only been 8 days dude. Gotta give people time to grieve and accept it so they can move on.

For real. It's like getting a new job and say "wow I love how great this is, my old job sucked." Then kinda laughing at how bad it was then and how good it is now.
Asking people to immediately forget about a platform they (at least in my case) have spent over a decade on in a matter of days is naive. People are going to commiserate about it, we're human.

Here is a hot take: think of it like leaving a house you have been renting for 10 years. Our relationship wasn't with the landlord as much as it was the neighbors and community.

Now, our landlord turned to a money-grubbing asshat ~~spaz~~ spez. You better believe we are telling everyone in our community, old and new, not to rent from him. Additionally, we are going to be venting the hurt of being evicted. We have all been forced to find a new neighborhood and learn everything new that comes with it. Our habits have been reset and it sucks.

Now this is the perfect analogy!

It's less obsessing over that site, but more:

I wanna see that bitch burn.

Agreed, it's more like joining a club and finding that it's full of your ex's other exes than going on a date
- Yeah, plus this club is ever growing with ex-redditors. It'll be topical news for a while yet.

Except the person you are on the date with also broke up with Reddit, and that is why you are on a date in the first place.

If I go to Reddit in order to tell everyone how great Lemmy is, that’s like going back to my X and talking about how great my new SO is. Sounds like a pretty psycho move IMO when I think about it.

Nah, you're just trying to get your X to join you guys

Counter shower thought, I'm not even close to dating Lemmy. I spent 2 years getting to know Reddit, it will take me as long, if not longer due to Lemmy not being as mature as resdit was.

Right now, lemmy is the stranger at the train station asking why I am crying. It might turn into something, or I may just lean into Facebook / Instagram / YouTube / discord more.

You're doing it right now!

Speaking of the ex, did I tell you about the time she kicked me out of /r/poli...

ya ok but then again you did make this thread, currently #1 on my lemmy world feed, about bitching about reddit lol

I had no idea it would take off. Apparently many others agree. Literally my first post on Lemmy.
- The irony seems lost on you. It's like calling up your ex to tell her you're not thinking about her.
- I'm just glad to see thousand upvotes

It's been like a week since the most recent migration happened, we can't just expect this to blow over immediately when like 90% here came from reddit just 7 days ago

It would be more like you both dated the same asshole and are bonding over your mutual hatred.

Bad analogy, it would be like meeting up with all your ex-girlfriend's other former partners and all bitching about that shared ex because you have that thing in common.

Gotta be honest, I am kind of curious to try this.
- I've done this in a group chat, though the lady who started the chat was waaay more invested in ex bashing than the other two
Now that you mention it, I really wonder what would happen if all my exes got together to talk shit about me. What would that groupthink decide about me? Oh god nevermind, banish the thought..

No. Joining Lemmy and bitching about Reddit is more like you and one or two other roommates moving out of a large, historically awesome collective steadily being ruined by an increasingly dictatorial house-owner (who used to live there too) and bitching about it in your brand new but decidedly smaller one, hopefully looking towards the future between tirades and building to regain some of that lost awesomeness

Plus, bitching about common experiences is awesome. I have two past co-workers that I stay in contact with and most of what we talk about is how much we hated the job.

This is very true, but due to the recent mass exodus is like a large group of people meeting and all talking shit about the GF/BF they all shared (a.k.a. the slut of the town)

Which can be emotionally healing, really.

In a Community called showerthoughts definitely not ripped from Reddit. Lol

People are still in the migration process. Talk about Reddit will NOT go away, because it's the elephant in the room and it hasn't gone away.
If you were around for the DIGG migration to Reddit, it's going to be similar. It will take a LONG TIME before you stop seeing Reddit related content here. It's just going to be a little less over time.

I doubt it will ever go away to the level of DIGG, unless Reddit completely implodes, which it won't. Reddit in its current state is still usable for the silent majority of users via desktop or official app, like it or not. DIGG rn is completely useless.

What we can do is support each other, create and share meaningful content here. Migrate your interests, and if it doesn't exist, create it or someone else can. Lemmy growth and interactions have exploded, even over the past week. Give it time, and enjoy the fact that we don't have to worry about Reddit screwing itself at the cost of their users.

Says the person talking about…Reddit.

Yeah, I see so many of these post now. It's like going on a date and and spending the whole night talking about dates that only talk about their ex

Personally I enjoy hearing about the reddit drama. I don't spend nearly as much time there as I did before they broke my beloved sync so I enjoy getting to read about the ongoing shenanigans over there.

I want it to burn and I want to watch it burn. Is that such a crime?

Good, I hate that bitch

lol

just let people vent, itll stop eventually once everything settled for good

Yeah. All the Reddit news is new news. So of course it's going to be trending - it's happening right now and people are talking about it.

It will die down eventually. The migration is still very fresh.

It's barely been a week! Let me grieve!

Most people, in one way or another, process by talking. It's fine. Besides, there's the train wreck aspect of it. Bad taste as it may be, but you can't stop watching and pointing out more horrible details to the people around you.

Real talk: it’s because we’re trying to identify and preemptively avoid the pitfalls of Reddit.

I agree. I'm just of the "rip the band-aid off" mindset.

Really it's more like we're all Reddit's exes who've unionized

Instead of reddit, why not talk about something more positive on your date, like how many tickets you are going to buy for my new movie, "Barbie", only in theaters July 21st?

Hello Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie (sometimes I get mistaken for you). Is it true you were cast in Barbie because you have plastic feet?
- Nice try Quentin, you already got me once with "Once upon a time in Hollywood", you are not going to get me again.
Wait, Barbie™ ? The upcoming fantasy comedy film directed by Greta Gerwig from a screenplay she wrote with Noah Baumbach? Based on the Barbie fashion dolls by Mattel? The first live-action Barbie film after many computer-animated direct-to-video and streaming television films? The film starring Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling as Barbie and Ken, respectively, alongside an ensemble supporting cast that includes America Ferrera, Kate McKinnon, Issa Rae, Rhea Perlman, and Will Ferrell?
So I can see it 4 times by myself.
- Why not buy an extra ticket for the seat next to yours every time, so you can have more seat room all to yourself?
July 21st
sorry babe, Pikmin 4 comes out that day. I'm busy 😎
- You should buy tickets for your 4 Pikmins too!

I would say it's more like when a bunch of friends collectively break up with toxic partners and have a big meeting to talk about it. It'll die down after a while. People on Reddit don't really talk about Digg anymore.

More like a bunch of strangers who were all dating the same toxic person gathering to talk shit about them.

Ironically, you used this sub to talk about Reddit. We left, why don't you move on?

If reddit was that important to whomever they should probably talk to someone about it.

Wait a minute!!! Reddit was fucking you lot too?!!!!

I had literally the exact same thought the other day. Pretty much every single thread on my front page was bitching about reddit in some way shape or form. Ugh

The fediverse has gradually shifted from being 75% posts complaining about reddit and 25% other to being 25% posts complaining about reddit, 25% posts complaining about how people come here to complain about reddit, and 50% other. We be makin progress!

But what if that crazy bitch stabbed you and it makes a pretty good story

No, that's a bad analogy. A closer one with your context is having a bad breakup and then getting into another relationship and moving in with the person, where your share stuff about your prior life along with other stuff.

But a better analogy is people living in an apartment building who get together for social events in the common area for years until the management starts doing shitty stuff, increasing rent, etc. A hunk of people decide they aren't taking it anymore, so they all move into the newly built apartment down the road that doesn't have many people in it yet. The new place also has community events, and now it's mostly people from the old place that are talking about what happened in the old place.

Bad breakup, eviction, or whatever, you can't expect a group of people who had a bad experience together to just stop talking about it in a few weeks. The vast majority of Lemmy users came from Reddit. It will die down when people really have gotten over it.

Oh no people are using some form of social media to complain. Well anyway.

I'm new, what is fedverse? Is this fed verse? Is lemmy part of something else called fedverse?

My completely unknowledgeable answer based on the week or so I've been here.
Lemmy works as a series of self hosted "instances", basically servers people run kinda like a games server or bitcoin miner.
When you join Lemmy, you picked an instance, that is the server you connect to and get all your data from, the "local" in your list.
This server then talks to and share posts with all the other servers it knows about and is connected to. That way when you query your local instance, it knows all about the other content on the other servers.
The over all cluster of various servers is the "Fediverse", various stand alone instances which share data to create the larger community.
So when the talk about defederating a site, like Threads, they mean cutting that server off from the rest of the community.
- yeah, that's kinda like email. there are multiple email providers (gmail, etc), and you can send emails to anyone even if they don't use the same provider

Fucking hell I couldn't agree more with this post. So many people on here sound like they want to have won the breakup. Lemmy shouldn't just be "the place that's better than reddit", that's not much of an identity. I'm not interested in this place just being the Canada to Reddit's USA.

Amen.
But if we're going to align this situation with nations can we be somewhere cool like new Zealand or something instead of Canada? Nothing against Canada, but they filmed LOTR in NZ..

Sure, yeah, but you have to talk about your ex for a while to process and get over them.

A/S/L?

16/f/cali
Just like everyone else!

I'm in 😎

You first

well, some women will ask a lot of question about your exes...

that's like lemmy asking: "do you regret breaking up with reddit? what did you like about reddit?"

Except everyone here has the same awful ex to complain about

Wut?

I agree it's a bit much at this point and I'd rather see actual content but your post here is also just talking about reddit instead of contributing content..