A Hamas leader says they will give up governing Gaza, but won’t lay down arms
A Hamas leader says they will give up governing Gaza, but won’t lay down arms
A Hamas leader says they will give up governing Gaza, but won’t lay down arms
What's left to govern?
That's not giving up.
Er... waitaminute I thought the claim all this time was that Hamas != Palestine, that Hamas was not in control of the territory but merely using the people of Palestine as a shield. Isn't the government of Palestine supposed to be distinct and separate from Hamas?
It's complicated. Hamas won a majority of seats in Palestine's parliament in 2006, but Fatah didn't like that. There was a bit of a civil war, and it ended up with Hamas controlling Gaza and Fatah controlling the West Bank. There haven't been any elections since. So no, Hamas doesn't represent all of Palestine, but they were democratically elected in 2006. They are in control of Gaza, but neither the West Bank, nor both territories as one Palestine. Really, there is no united Palestine right now. And I'm sure Israel is very happy to keep it that way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
And I’m sure Israel is very happy to keep it that way.
It also seems like the people in charge of the split groups are happy to keep it that way. I'm sure there's a substantial amount of foreign influence, but it looks like neither PNA or PLO have had elections since 2006. PNA under Hamas clearly has some religious/military motivations that they play out with authoritarian style, but it seems that the current leadership of the PLO has inherited Arafat's financial empire:
According to a 1993 report by the British National Criminal Intelligence Service, the PLO was "the richest of all terrorist organizations", with $8–$10 billion in assets and an annual income of $1.5–$2 billion from "donations, extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, etc." Estimates of the Palestine Liberation Organization's alleged hidden assets vary wildly and only Arafat had the whole picture. A former PLO finance minister said it was $3 billion to $5 billion.
So why would they be interested in sharing/dividing control of that? Israel is probably fanning the flames of the internal divisions, but I bet the self-interest of the leaders of the various groups carries more weight.
They were pretty fast from a majority in 2006. So they may have been democratically elected but it was not by most Palestinians.
Who has been making that claim? There was no authority except Hamas in Gaza prior to the ongoing fighting.
Hmm... are you implying that the PLO doesn't exist/isn't functional, or just that the PLO has no authority within Gaza specifically?
When the conflict started in October there were a lot of critics of Israel saying that attacks against the people of Gaza were unethical because Hamas does not represent them, and they were not responsible for Hamas' actions.
Attacks against civilians are unethical in any case, but my point here is that the claim that Hamas does not represent Gaza is spurious.
They are not completely distinct at the moment but to say that Hamas represents Gazans would be incorrect. Hamas win about a third of the vote in 2006 but that was the most so they got control of the government but have not had an election since. Many in the Israeli government were happy with the result because it weakened the PLO and therefore calls for a two state solution. Hell, Israel funded Hamas' startup back in the 80s for exactly that purpose.
Would you bother continuing to claim to control territory that was just a bunch of bombed out rubble?
I think it's more that they have no issue with someone else, a unity government of Palestinians, to rule both Gaza and the West Bank. But they don't want to give up resistance to the Occupation
This shows that Hamas was more interested in being warlords than the actual business of governing. Just like the Israeli government is more interested in conquering a tiny bit of bombed out desert than actually living in peace.
Both sides are clearly led by pieces of shit. Israel has a democracy though, so they are choosing to be led by pieces of shit. Palestinians might have some shitty beliefs about Jewish people, but they don't have a voice in their government.
Literally no country actually cares about Palestinians. Iran and their proxies (Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, Syria) just want to be warlords. Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia just want to distract their domestic audience. Europe is just going to wring their hands and hope the killing stops.
America is actually the biggest force for peace in the region. All of these were signed in Washington DC (or nearby at Camp David):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17_Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Jordan_peace_treaty
Actual brainworm comment. Maybe take a look at the proposals in the Camp David/Oslo accords and consider why Israel was so excited to sign a "peace deal" which have them 80% of the land, 100% of the military control, and total domination of political and economic affairs over Palestine.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted when you're right. The right-wing of the Israeli Government even assassinated Rabin because any concessions to Palestinians was seen as too far. Instead, Israel continued the settlements based on the Areas A,B and C from Oslo, while the PA denounced and rejected Resistance of the encroaching settlements/military bases and violent settlers. Meanwhile Palestinians were never given self-determination and the Right of Return was never even considered. These failures led directly to the conditions for the 2nd Intifada
Did you read the article or just the headline?
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
They probably didn't, but it's okay because they quickly googled a few terms and linked their Wikipedia articles to seem smart.