11mo ago

Donald Trump's losing baby boomers, silent generation to Kamala Harris

www.newsweek.com /donald-trump-losing-voters-kamala-harris-baby-boomers-silent-generation-poll-1939694

Former President Donald Trump is losing older voters to Vice President Kamala Harris, a new poll shows.

A survey released by Emerson College on Thursday revealed that the majority of voters over 70 are supporting Harris, 51 percent, over Trump at 48 percent.

Those results show a major breakthrough for Harris, who has been able to surpass Trump's lead with older voters. Just last month, with President Joe Biden still in the race, 50 percent of voters over 70 supported Trump, while 48 percent of the age group backed Biden.

The over 70 category includes both baby boomers, those born between 1946 and 1964, as well as the silent generation, anyone born between 1925 and 1945.

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Project2025 wants to make cuts to SocialSecurity and Medicare, two things that Boomers rely on heavily.
- They also want to tax employee benefits.
  
  They only want to tax employee benefits above $12,000. The point of it seems to be to limit how much health insurance people get, so it limits their access to healthcare.
  If all employer-provided health insurance was taxed (not just the amount above $12,000) it would be a good thing in the long run, because it would disentangle health insurance from employment.
  
  Wait, sorry, I'm an accountant in another country; you guys don't tax employee benefits? Lucky.
  Based upon the down votes, I am adding an edit: Lucky because it can get nit picky for an accountant, not lucky because your government doesn't care for you. But I mis spoke and it was off topic, so I accept my comment wasn't appreciated.
- And yet 48% boomers support GOP. Smh
  
  Stupid people vote against themselves over culture war issues that don’t affect them. They don’t think. They just get angry.
Removing social security and or Medicare would quite literally kill a lot of these people. WTF did they think would happen?
- These people have been voting against their own well-being for decades.
  
  I think they expect it to gradually sunset and not impact them. Then they can leave "less of a deficit" for their kids.
  I'd rather have the entitlements.
  
  Most of them still will. But it won't take much of a shift in that demo to drastically shift the outcome of the election.
- People don't vote for Trump for rational reasons. They vote for him to have their hate and resentment validated.
- Except they are being lied to about medicare and social security NOT being cut
  Edit: i pulled this from r/conservative
  
  I genuinely had to stop and think if that image was satirical, but nope, it's real
  
  1 and 2 are already a lie. They can't deport migrants because their voters need cheap migrant labor to not go out of business, and it would go against point 3, keeping things affordable. And they need the bogeyman. If there is no migrant threat there are no votes.
  But nobody said the people voting for them were rationally thinking about these points.
- Well, you wonder why they would rather have Trump than Biden then...
My guess is that many Boomers were slow to realize just how awful he is. Those who were lifelong Republicans just voted R out of habit. They thought the news stories were noise and exaggerations, like so much “news” is nowadays.
In some cases, they’ll never vote for him, or anyone associated with him, ever again. Trump has done major, long-term damage to the Republican Party by making it all about him, and saying the quiet parts out loud FAR too often. Personally, I’m okay with that.
- In some cases, they’ll never vote for him, or anyone associated with him, ever again.
  I was an independent for a long time. Mostly voted D but did my due diligence on local races to see if the R had something of value. After the blind acceptance of R to switch to MAGA I"ll never vote R again. Ever.
- Also it’s been nearly 10 years of listening to his garbage. Many of the oldest and worst have died both from the usual suspects and the covid he did very little to stop. Just another reason on the pile of reasons why people are turning on them.
Make sure he loses your generation too, VOTE!!!
President Joe Biden still in the race, 50 percent of voters over 70 supported Trump, while 48 percent of the age group backed Biden.
Even under Biden running, felon Drink Bleach having only a 2% margin on the boomers - his base - could not have been that comforting.
But, gee, is it ever much better with Harris! Rock on!
I won't get complacent. I'll vote. Have a great day!
- Boomers lean R/Maga but not enough that I'd call that his base.
  His base is more cultural than generational.
  Anecdotally, I know a bunch of boomers and very few are MAGAts. Heck, my uncle still calls himself a "hippie". He pretty much is (not a flower child, but definitely in other ways).
I wonder why. Someone else pointed out plans to cut medicare and social security, but that's not new for Trump or the GOP; they've been fucking those programs up for at least 20 years, and that never bothered boomers and Republican silent gen before. What changed?
- I'll take a guess that it's because he's been repeating himself so often. They've tuned out any media not in their bubble, so all the reports of what a shit stain of a person he is are ignored or dismissed. But his own rallies? His own interviews? His own statements? He just keeps bringing out the same tired arguments and complaints that he has for the last 8 years, and he is much lower energy now. And it's happening often enough that they can't fully ignore it. He has finally committed the most unforgivable cardinal sin to them, he has become boring.
  
  Yeah, you may be right. We've had, what, almost a decade of candidate/president Trump now? Even the most successful TV shows in history are pretty much out of gas by this point, there's just not really anything left to say that hasn't already been said. Even Fox news shakes up its talking heads every now and then, and it has the advantage of being "news" (massive sarcasm quotes there). Trump isn't bringing anything new to the table, it's the same old dog and pony show, and the tricks have gone stale. Makes sense.
  
  He's starting to sound like a broken record. A bitter, angry, broken one. At first his brand of populism was very fresh and charming to the right. But like the other right wing populist counterparts in Europe, I think Trump too is getting tiresome to listen to. It's been ten years of the same shtick and not much to show for it.
See, I thought he lost them to covid
- The ones that masked up and where scared shitless because they took it seriously will not vote trump.
  
  I think at covid's peak there was a ratio of around 3 or 4 Republicans to 1 Democrat dying. Especially post-vaccine roll-out.
- No, it was Time.
- It wasn't for lack of trying.
It's remarkable how much the Demographic landscape has shifted since like 2012. Boomers are no longer the biggest generation; that was probably accelerated quite a bit by coronavirus.
Ultimately, with more diversity and the death of boomers the Democratic path to victory — despite the electoral college — requires only that Democrats energize their own core base and pull over some Independents with contagious enthusiasm. No compromise needed with the likes of far-right Republican extremism. Their platform is largely irrelevant and deeply unpopular.
- I think the newer generations growing up with this utter garbage platform of the GOP will really hurt their electability in a few years to the next few decades as the younger generations reach voting age
  
  Definitely! You may recall that Republicans performed an "Autopsy report" following their 2012 losses and concluded that they would need to moderate their platform and appeal to minorities in greater numbers. But instead, the party went the exact opposite way and hitched a ride with right-wing extremism under Trump. In the short-term they road high off enthusiasm of bigots and the ignorant... But that can only be sustained for so long. Now they've forked themselves between catering to racist sexist bigots versus moving back to the center. The problem is the more they shift in one direction, the more the other group abandons them.
  Ultimately Democrats adopted any noteworthy substantive policy that Republicans once had, so it's a dying party lashing out like a rat in a corner.
  And if it wasn't for the Electoral College, the Citizens United decision, and Gerrymandering, the party would've been relegated to History next to the Whigs long ago.
Apparently between project 2025 and having a eyeliner wearing couch fucker as a running mate is enough to sway some voters. Good news, now don't believe the hype and VOTE!!!!
Volunteer to give rides to those that wouldn't be able to vote without it.
It's like one of them finally stood up and shouted "My God, the Emperor has no clothes!"
Imagine that, people who grew up in the shadow of the Holocaust might not like fascists.
I think we may have entered an alternate universe.
- We may be be leaving the alternate universe we entered around 2015.
  
  Stop giving me hope already, dammit!
- So now all of humanity's conflicts will be resolved by having giant robots wrestle each other?
  
  Let's hope so.
Technically, everyone is losing baby boomers and the silent generation.
- Not what the phrase mean in this context. The ratio I'm which they distribute the remaining votes is changing. So, one of the sides is losing more of them than the others.
  
  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humor
  
  Baby boomers and silent generation are both quite old, and so there is a third option; both sides losing boomers and silent generation to them dying of old age/natural causes.
They finally figured out he’s crazier than they are.
silent generation. how many of them are left? I think you would have to be over 82 but let me check.....meh. according to wikipedia currently the youngest would be born in 45. I think that has varied and might have been anchored to the even sounding 5 year point. Anyway we are talking octogenarians and older. I mean I know folks are living longer but what percentage of the population is that? ill check....gah can't even find. Lots of how 65+ is growing but that group is mostly boomer who are the largest generation born for the US. Then of those 80+ how many can vote (not have the right to but have the capacity). I guess they did not want to just say boomers and saying boomer at older but 65+ is used a lot maybe they should just use that.
- Age 79 and up. They make up almost 5% of the US population. Source (Btw, 0.13% of the population is in the generation before the Silent Generation!
  However, the 5% goes up to about 6% of the voting population. (Math: Using the source above, we can take out 12.76% for all of Gen Alpha. We can probably drop Gen Z to 15% total under the premise that if the same number of people were born every year, ~70-75% of them would be too young.)
  6% still sounds fairly small, but that is over 16 million people.
  Yes, there’s physical and mental decline at that point, but most of them still probably have the facilities to vote. Fuck, the current sitting president is in the Silent Generation and yeah, obviously there are questions about his capacity to continue for another 4 years, but he’s definitely capable enough to vote. There’s also mail-in voting that’s heavily used by these demographic groups.
  
  holy crap, that is much more than I thought and I totally did not even think about you have to minus out everyone under 18 and then if you think voter turnout im thinking 10% might be possible as far as effect. Thanks.
And anyone with a functional brain.
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- Yes it does. Vote.
  
  Yeah but yknow maybe also pay attention to the people who CLEARLY don’t care if you vote bc they don’t believe your vote counts. It’s happened before
- We’re better off FINDING out who these turds are and UNDERMINING them beforehand
- They are also not going to accept the results when he loses.
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