2y ago

4k is not 2160p - heard it here first!

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Rockstar’s controversial Red Dead Redemption port makes a huge upgrade - Dexerto

Dear God,

I hope they sack this "journalist" quickly.

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It really shows how bad the marketing of these higher resolutions are. We always advertised the vertical lines and then we switched to horizontal lines.
You can’t expect a video game journalist to understand basic display principles. EDIT: /s
- I get not wanting to call it "2160p" because that's a lot of syllables. But you're right, it was really dumb to switch which lines we are referring to. I'm sure a better name could have been come up with. Even UHD was better imo.
  The one that really irks me are the people who call 2560x1440 2K. I have always known 2K to mean 2048 x 1080. But it has picked up so much traction that it has pretty much been redefined at this point.
  
  2k is the term i refuse to use in my linguo. Ill yake QHD, or 1440p, but not 2k. 2560 doesnt even round to 2000 in the thousands place.
  
  2K is supposed to refer to a 2048x2048 square 1:1 aspect image, same with 4K being a 4096x4096 image. This term is correctly used a lot when referring to texture sizes. A 4K texture is 4096x4096 texels.
  I think the term started getting mixed up with people discussing what resolutions benefit from texture size increases. Generally, if you are running, say, 4K textures, you would really only always benefit from that if you have a 2160p screen, just because lower resolutions dont have the definition to actually display those texels. So, people start inter changing "4K screen" and "4K-benefitting screen" and we end up where we are now.
- I don't expect a journalist to know, I expect an editor or fact checker to at least Google "4k resolution".
  Or how about "red dead redemption xbox" to see what the BC version runs at...
  Pro-tip: Xbox One S / Series S - 1440p
  Xbox One X / Series X - Native 4K
  https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2018-red-dead-redemption-4k-xbox-one-x-analysis
  
  It’s pretty confusing
  “UHD features a 16:9 aspect ratio and is twice the resolution of full HD. In other words, two times 1080p, two times 1920 x 1080 pixels, that is 3840 x 2160 pixels. Having the same 16:9 aspect ratio means it is backward compatible with other HD derivates. However, both 4K and UHD can be shortened to 2160p to match the HD standard and therefore, companies use the terms interchangeably.”
  “If you think 4K and UHD are one and the same, I don’t blame you. I blame the companies that LOVE to use them interchangeably all the time. You pick up a Blu-Ray movie disc of a 4K movie and you will most definitely see an Ultra HD label on it. 4K is actually not a consumer display and broadcast standard but UHD is. 4K displays are used in professional production and digital cinemas and feature 4096 x 2160 pixels”
  
  I thought the term “basic” would hint the sarcasm but I failed.
  It really isn’t that hard to grasp, unless you are trying to frame your article a certain way.
- You can’t expect an video game journalist to understand basic display principles.
  Yes you can.
  
  Wtf is sarcasm?
AI generated article, or pure incompetence. Or both
- Dexerto, gamerant, and similar are all just AI generated. You can see these kinds of mistake so often
I was looking up and down for any explanation as to why 4k is different from 2160p. Shows that this one has no clue what they're talking about.
- It's nitpicking, whether it runs at 3840x2160 or 4096x2160 does not matter. Same goes for calling it 4K or UHD, even when one is technically incorrect.
  If even Sony calls their 3840x2160 blu-rays "4K UHD" I'm fine with the average person using them interchangeable.
  
  I had to go digging but 3840x2160 is both 2160p AND 4k UHD. 4096x2160 is something called 4K DCI which is more of a camera or film industry thing and is rarely used for things like TVs or video games.
  
  Same goes for calling it 4K or UHD, even when one is technically incorrect.
  Why is it incorrect? 4k isn't a formal standard. It just means you have approximatly 4k horizontal pixels.
  
  4K UHD (along with 8K UHD and 16K UHD) are the consumer format standards for 3840x2160 image formats which includes Blu-ray. Full 4K or True 4K or DCI 4K is the cinematic 4K standard shown at 4096x2160, which many TVs supper via slight letterboxing
- I've found this. Personally I would not say the difference is worth having another name, maybe for the sake of differentiating between the ratios.
  But it seems that indeed 4K is not 2160p 🤷
Lol. on the PS4 Pro or PS5, Red Dead Redemption can even achieve 4K resolution. In contrast, the game runs at 2160p on Series X.
Just saw the Digital Foundry review, it’s sad that Rockstar didn’t even bother to upgrade the UI elements. almost every UI asset runs on 720p
- Damn
  The fact it’s STILL 30fps is “hard pass” territory from me on its own but like. Wow. Lazy
  
  Probably because they didn't want to rewrite the physics that are based on 30fps max. Lazy port.
This thread reminds me of that time on the bodybuilding forum when they argued about how many days there are in a week.
- 9 are they fucking stupid or something?
  
  Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
  Fucking idiots.

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