1y ago

62 Democrats Join 207 Republicans in Vote to Conceal Gaza Death Toll

Democratic leaders did not tell members to vote against an amendment to block the State Department from citing the Gaza Health Ministry’s statistics.

The House of Representatives has voted to effectively conceal the death toll from Israel’s war on Gaza.

On Thursday, lawmakers voted 269-144 on an amendment to prohibit the State Department from citing statistics from the Gaza Health Ministry. The measure is part of the annual State Department appropriations bill. It was led by Democratic Reps. Jared Moskowitz, Fla., and Josh Gottheimer, N.J., and Republican Reps. Joe Wilson, S.C.; Mike Lawler, N.Y.; and Carol Miller, W.V.

Mohammed Khader, policy manager at the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights Action, told The Intercept that the amendment is part of a trend of anti-Palestinian sentiment in Congress since the start of Israel’s atrocities in Gaza. “By preventing any recognition of the number of Palestinians killed since October, this amendment is a clear example of genocide denial and is no different from what was done towards victims of genocides in Rwanda and Armenia.”

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1y ago

62 Democrats Join 207 Republicans in Vote to Conceal Gaza Death Toll

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62 Democrats Join 207 Republicans in Vote to Conceal Gaza Death Toll

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62 Democrats Join 207 Republicans to Conceal Gaza Death Toll

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Fuck the genocide deniers. Block all the info you want. Those of us who are sane, and aren't bought by AIPAC money see through it all. All your attempts are transparent and ultimately futile. We know what Israel is doing, what info we do have clearly paints them as genocidal. Innocents dont murder journalists. Your reputation is shredded, Israel. Hopefully we can stay mad at this and AIPAC long enough to end lobbying. Destroying a lot of the incentive to be a complete piece of shit.
- Innocents don't murder journalists...
  Hamas killed four Israeli journalists on Oct 7th during the attacks.
  "but Israel is doing it worse"
  How many people are they allowed to kill in retaliation for Oct 7th? Zero? 1:1? 10:1?
  No country in the world would get attacked and not retaliate if they had the means.
  
  How many people are they allowed to kill in retaliation for Oct 7th? Zero? 1:1? 10:1?
  I mean you asked the question, whats your number?
  Because Israel has killed 104 as of today.
  If Hamas killed 4 on Oct 7, that puts the ratio at 26:1.
  Israel estimates that 1200 were killed on Oct 7.
  A recent estimate puts Israel at 34,900 killed.
  Thats a ratio of about 29:1. Is that acceptable to you?
  I'm doing this not because there is any acceptable level, but to highlight the absurdity of the idea that there even is one. Hamas needs to be held accountable for its crimes. Israel needs, at a level about 29 times more so, also needs to be held accountable for their crimes.
  The idea that any level of incidental murder is acceptable is absurdist, and you are a terrible person if you think there is one.
  
  Member Shireen Abu Akleh?
  Israel killed an American journalist and Biden doesn't care.
  Not sure what your comment has to do with the post though.
  
  How many people are they allowed to kill in retaliation for Oct 7th? Zero? 1:1? 10:1?
  Per the Dahiya Doctrine the general rule is 30:1. If a single Israel is injured or killed, the state has the authority to kill up to 30 Palestinians.
  Commentators for The Guardian, The Washington Post, and Mondoweiss have noted that the attacks of the Israeli Defense Forces on the civilian infrastructure of the Gaza Strip during the 2023 Hamas-Israel war may constitute an extension of the doctrine. Haaretz reported that IDF had dropped "all restraint" in its war: killed civilians and destroyed civilian infrastructure at an unprecedented rate.
  Writing in The Guardian, Paul Rogers of Bradford University argues that Israel's goal in the 2023 war is to "corral the Palestinians into a small zone in the southwest of Gaza where they can be more easily controlled," and that the long-term goal is to make clear that Israel "will not stand for any opposition."
There are way too many evil people in power in this country.
- We just need to vote for the lesser of the two evils every time to get rid of them.
  
  How is less evil better than no evil?
  I vote guillotine.
  
  We are truly in a loop of insanity at this point. 40+ years loop of the same type of direction not working.
  
  At least it would help if you didn't oscillate between the two. Less evil, more evil, less evil, more evil. Pick less evil each time!
  
  Surely this will work, eventually!
Once again proving that Dems are the lesser of two evils, still evil, but less so
- State is inherently evil. There is no non-evil way to dominate others.
  
  I'll agree that there's no way to dominate others without being evil. My question is is there a way to form a state without domination?
Fucking registerwalls.
I came to posit that if the government doesn’t release the numbers we have a press to do that. Supposed to do that. Used to do that. Can’t tell if even this story tried to do that.
- I wish the mods would make a rule to require users to provide an archive link as a back up.
  
  I thought they/world rules prohibited that? Same reason why can't copy in the article text
Are we the baddies?
Cool, so what were all of their names? That sounds like something concerned voters should know.
No I'm not signing up for the intercept to read "free" articles.
- Here's the Democrats that voted for censoring the Genocide statistics.
  The Republican list is so long it's more relevant who isn't on that.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mohammed Khader, policy manager at the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights Action, told The Intercept that the amendment is part of a trend of anti-Palestinian sentiment in Congress since the start of Israel’s atrocities in Gaza.
After reciting the death toll and other statistics about casualties, Tlaib said she intended to introduce the list of Palestinians killed in Gaza to the congressional record.
The Ministry of Health is the only official entity tracking the death toll in Gaza; its figures have been cited broadly, including by the U.S. and Israeli governments.
In December, the duo joined Republican Reps. Elise Stefanik and Steve Scalise to lead a resolution condemning university presidents and calling for their resignations for allegedly tolerating antisemitism on campus.
In November, the two Democrats joined 20 others in censuring Tlaib, for reasons that included posting a video calling for a ceasefire that contained the phrase “from the river to the sea.”
Along with Lawler, he headlined a call hosted by No Labels, in which he spoke with university trustees about how to push the FBI to take a bigger role in investigating campus protests.
The original article contains 655 words, the summary contains 186 words. Saved 72%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Remember to vote blue.
- If only the system wasn't designed to squash third parties. Blue gives very little fucks either, it seems.
- Or better yet don't vote. Let fascism have a swing at it. I'm sure 207 soulless horse traders can do better than 62.
  
  Say, what do you call someone who openly works for the fascist cause?
Paywall
- Loginwall actually. Just put in a random email.
How are they concealing it? I have heard news reports citing the Gaza Health Ministry's claims of tens of thousands of casualties since the war began. I believe they are correct (how many are non-combatants is debatable).
Anyone who is paying even a little bit of attention knows that many civilians are getting killed. Only a small minority seem to care.
- " On Thursday, lawmakers voted 269-144 on an amendment to prohibit the State Department from citing statistics from the Gaza Health Ministry. "
  Their death toll numbers have been very accurate in the past. The Defense department has also cited them.
  No other group is allowed to enter Gaza (by Israel) to independently verify the death toll. Gaza Health Ministry is the only reliable source. This bill effectively censors the Gaza death toll.
What is there to conceal? Pretty sure it's only Hamas that's died so far.
- Innocent aid workers are Hamas?
  https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/14/gaza-israelis-attacking-known-aid-worker-locations#:~:text=As%20of%20April%2030%2C%20the,for%20188%20of%20these%20fatalities.
  Kids?
  https://abcnews.go.com/International/number-children-missing-separated-families-gaza-high-21000/story?id=111365036
  If you're legitimately unaware of the war crimes being committed in Gaza, you might want to run some Google searches.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1fnQ6gJeis

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