Telegram Reportedly "Ready to Fight Piracy" According to Govt. Official * TorrentFreak

At various times, most social media platforms have received criticism for alleged failure to prevent distribution of copyright-infringing content. Few, however, have been threatened with widespread blocking more often than Telegram. In a row that seemed ready to boil over last year, Telegram was given an ultimatum by the Malaysian government; come to the negotiating table or face the consequences. A Malaysian minister now says that Telegram is ready to fight piracy.

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Too bad Telegram isn't as ready to fight Nazi propaganda on their service, but they would have to start with the white supremacist symbolism their own blog was slipping into release posts.
- but they would have to start with the white supremacist symbolism their own blog was slipping into release posts.
  Can you provide a link for this? Interested in reading about it
- I rather have free speech, if you don't like Telegram then use something else.
  
  Putting someone else's life in danger (unprovoked) is not a free speech
  
  Tolerating intolerance leads to disappearance of tolerance.
  
  Nazi bullshit isn't free speech. That's a trash argument. You need to look inside and find what part of you is broken if you think otherwise. Fuck Nazi anything. They don't have a right to free speech. They lost that when they became Nazi's.
  
  Funny how the .ml admins are so opposed to free speech on their own server, then.
  
  I'm disappointed so many people disagree with this. Yes, now they're blocking opinions you don't like, but if they choose to block opinions you agree with, I doubt they'd continue whistling the same tune.
  
  .ml user don't be a fascist challenge.
These fucks just can't stop spoiling everything for people
RIP OnlyFans leaks on telegram
So far, this isn't much of anything.
Telegram already closes public channels reported for copyright violations.
Some excerpts from this post:
Compared to other platforms, we do not see the seriousness of Telegram to cooperate.
. . .
In May 2023, progress appeared to be going in the wrong direction. Telegram was reportedly refusing to cooperate with the Ministry of Communications and Digital on the basis it did not wish to participate in any form of politically-related censorship.
. . .
With no obviously public comment from Telegram on the matter, it’s hard to say how the social platform views its end of what appears to be an informal agreement.
Telegram will be acutely aware, however, that whatever it gives, others will demand too. That may ultimately limit Telegram’s response, whatever it may be, whenever it arrives – if it even arrives at all.
- Huh? Is this relevant, or some kind of bot spam?
How much responsibility would a service like Signal have, if they were to inadvertently host a private group for pirated content? I believe signal groups can have up to 1000 members, and these members can be pretty anonymous given the need to only share an ephemeral username which can not be linked to a phone number or any other identity? Can they claim plausible deniability and not do anything?
- IANAL and all the other anals, but my understanding is Signal wouldn't be liable and wouldn't have to do anything. They designed their service so they can't know the content of the messages, so if a third party Maloyse (see what I'm doing there?) is reporting a message between Alice and Bob that Maloyse thinks to be illegal, Signal would be within legal grounds to bring into question how did M got that message, and it can't be used as proof against Signal because there is no legal mechanism by which Signal could have acquired that message and act upon it - in fact, Signal has grounds to suspect Maloyse is crafting those messages, since neither Alice nor Bob have reported such message.
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  This is the correct answer. Both Alice and Bob approve.
  
  In a group chat, M wouldn't be a 3rd party.
- What if that happens on Session? Can the nodes operators be sued even though they have no access to the content?
- But good for copyrighted stuff
- I agree, but why do you think so?
- Telegram is and always has been shitty. WhatsApp is shitty too. Use Signal instead.
  
  Signal also has its flaws. Use Matrix.

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