Ukraine-Russia war live: 'Europe could die', warns Macron as he warns against relying on self-interested US
Ukraine-Russia war live: 'Europe could die', warns Macron as he warns against relying on self-interested US
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The US will consume Europe to fight Russia and China.
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Good
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Oh look if it isn't consequences of my actions - western Europe.
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I'm sorta respecting Macron's drive to make Europe plough it's own furrow away from the USA.
On the other hand, I don't trust Macron and his ilk to lead Europe. I trust them barely more than I trust the USA. I don't like Macron's approach to Ukraine or his domestic policies. At least he is cool about Taiwan tho.
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Promise?
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...but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make
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God yes please. The more I hear about that shithole the more I see just how much they don't deserve exist. They out-racist America in a lot of cases.
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I grow tired of paying for the bulk of European security. Get your own damn army.
I mean that they need a unified European Army. Two powerhouses will be better than 1.
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It's not going to be something useful like a power house though. It'll be a bunch of dudes simulating how to blow up poor third-world peasants in the most expensive way possible. In case the market demands that particular skillset. And who is going to command this lot? Von der Leyen? I'd rather not give an army to the aristocratic horse lady (again). She probably always wanted to order a cavalry charge against some peasants, so let's not give her the chance.
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She probably always wanted to order a cavalry charge against some peasants
Goedendag to her then i guess
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A European Army would be an interesting outcome, america would save a lot when it lost it’s bases there and became a regional power. Sure, the US would lose any say in a lot of matters that concern it, but they would learn, like the UK, to complain loudly and be ignored.
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Of course Europe should stop relying on U.S military especially when it's in danger of once again falling under the control of Putin's favourite useful orange idiot.
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Macron week ago: SEND TROOPS TO UKRAINE
Macron now: maybe better distance ourselves from the USA
Is anyone even taking this guy seriously? I mean i kind of understand he will say anything at all that have a slight chance of lessening the internal contradictions in France, but please tell me not even liberals have memory this short?
To be fair, maybe he actually thought that US would back his idiotic plan, and when was told to go pound sand that's where he flipped to US is unreliable narrative.
Here he is saying it five months ago: https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-china-america-pressure-interview/
In March 2022: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/macron-distances-himself-from-us-biden-calling-putin-a-butcher/2547489
In Sept 2020: https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-europe-dependency-us-arms/
No he's just inconsistent, trying to appease different audiences.
Its the same eu army back and forth that has been going on since november 2012 i think, its just a talking point to further that goal.