Russia says US support for Ukraine will end as ‘humiliating fiasco’ like ‘Vietnam and Afghanistan’
Russia says US support for Ukraine will end as ‘humiliating fiasco’ like ‘Vietnam and Afghanistan’
It's actually kinda incredible for Russia to have not realized that the US is literally just letting Ukraine integrate itself into NATO standards by training on and building up NATO standard equipment as it runs out of the shitty Soviet era alternatives
Meanwhile Moscow is instead developing a dependency on Iranian and Chinese made military hardware, stuff that neither is especially willing to part with given their own war plans.
The US could 1000% just barely provide enough aid to tactically let Russia chew its teeth out trying to break Ukraine, but it's sending what Ukraine needs to win whenever it can because the US sees Ukraine winning as more important than Russia losing at this point.
Unfortunately "barely enough" is closer to the mark. Ukraine should've had this funding last year and we should've been close to the next round at this point. If this is actually all America can muster when it is committed to "winning" then then thats a bit sad and scary considering the incompetent broke ass country we are trying to beat while having homecourt advantage.
The only thing that gives me solace is the thought that this is carefully architected to bleed out Russia and not actually a show of real force.
exactly the fuckers say like usa is fighting there lol
Russian officials publicly assure the world that their invasion will only last 1 week due to their overwhelming military superiority.
109 weeks later without a victory, losing twice as many soldiers and equipment, Russian officials swear that the US, not an active combatant, is going to be so embarrassed.
Hey Putin, remind me again how many days into your 3-day special military operation you are?
funny that the Russkis mention Afghanistan 😅
And as always, as long as the cunts in Russia are complaining and riding their propaganda train at full speed, we are doing something right.
Yeah, Afghanistan was pretty embarrasing for the USSR
The usa getting involved in Afghanistan is nothing to be proud of. Many War crimes have been committed there by us.
You mean the one where the USA gave a fuckload of material and immaterial aid as much as they could to any radical extremist willing to hold an AK47?
Yeah, I'm going to put the USSR firmly in the "Right side of history" looking back at USA's shit
It's a very weird thing for the USA to be proud of
Ahh… lemmy.ml users, so predictable, so dumb.
Yeah Russia just showed up to plant sunflowers and give everyone candy.
Russian government spokespeople say lots of things.
Very few of them are true, or accurate.
Oh it's a bit dumber than that. Russia tried to occupy Afghanistan in the 1980s and got fuckin romped worse than the US did and that was with peak Russian power and no near endless supply of Russia surplus for insurgents to use.
Maybe they're saying Zelensky will make another 9/11 like Osama did after we supported him in Afghanistan?
USSR went there on the request of their government at the time (unlike America's rampage invasion) and withdrew after the USA heavily armed extremely backwards Muslim extremists who were doing every war crime in the book
It's still a better ending than a 20 year war (u lost lmao)
Ruzzia knows all about humiliating fiascoes.
Because Russia had so much success against Afghanistan themselves. Pretty sure they've had their asses handed to them in the far east as well.
Because Russia had so much success against Afghanistan themselves.
Despite nominally being a staunch supporter of George Bush Jr's War on Terror, Afghanistan was one place Putin absolutely refused to give support. You can call it cowardice or wisdom or simply being once-bitten-twice-shy, but the Graveyard of Empires isn't the place you send in troops casually.
Pretty sure they’ve had their asses handed to them in the far east as well.
Do you mean the Russo-Japan War? That was over a century ago.
With the exception of the First Chechen War, The Post-'91 Russian Federation's record on the battlefield has generally been successful.
Russian military leadership is well-blooded and one of the only institutions that wasn't gutted by Perestroika. The folks who were laughing up their sleeves at the "Oversized Gas Station" when the Ukraine fight started may have underestimated the monster that was unleashed.
Ukraine wants the help. Afghanistan didn't. Also, the Soviet Union did a similar thing in Afghanistan.
Afghani's did want the help. They just didn't want someone else telling them what they should do ... again.
The Kremlin warned that American support for Ukraine could turn into a decade-long folly
If I were to bet, it would be that the US can keep this up for a decade more-readily than you can.
I don't think that this is going to keep going for a decade, though.
Russian industry produces 500 or 600 new tanks and maybe a little more than a thousand new fighting vehicles every year. The Russian military loses more than a thousand tanks and close to 2,000 fighting vehicles every year—and the loss rate is increasing.
There’s a gap—one the Kremlin fills by pulling out of long-term storage tanks and fighting vehicles dating back to the 1970s, or even the ’60s or ’50s in some cases. But these old vehicles are a finite resource. Built during the Soviet Union’s industrial heyday, they cannot be replaced with new production.
Ominously for the Russians, the most recent projections anticipate that, as early as mid-2025, there won’t be any more old tanks and fighting vehicles left in storage. “Time is running out for Russia,” wrote Artur Rehi, an Estonian soldier and analyst.
“Time is running out for Russia,” wrote Artur Rehi, an Estonian soldier and analyst.
That's the phrase we hear for years now. It shouldn't be taken into consideration. A country of 140mil and 1\4 of land that won't back off can fight for a very long time until it runs out of resources or people. After two years it sounds like a copium and a reason to just sit and wait, while another country's clocks are ticking faster.
The question is, which time Afganistan, when Russia had to get out or the US?
Was about to say, at least the US withdrawing from Afghanistan isn't literally a cause of the entire country collapsing into 14 smaller new states and also the entire western bloc
Russia lost in Afghanistan so, cool!
so us support for ukraine will end up like when the us supported afghanistan. awesome.
He knows all about fiascos in afghanistan
It makes sense.
How does it make sense? There aren't any Americans fighting in Ukraine. And Russia are the ones that said they'd win in two weeks.
In terms of military support, America reduces their support for Ukraine because they need to support Israel more. Now just about time, they need more resources to fight Iran.
The difference is that Vietnam and Afghanistan were civil wars. It's very difficult to win a war when a sizable portion of the citizens are fighting against you. Ukraine seems to be very united against a common enemy: Russia.
The difference is that Vietnam and Afghanistan were civil wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas
A civil war that's been ongoing since 2014.
Ukraine seems to be very united against a common enemy
Western Ukraine, sure. But that's not where Russia's military is occupying territory.
It would be nice to see the US launch a full assault on the soviets. FULL ON. I can dream can't I?
slow down there hitler
Russia's right. From us supporting the nazis in Israel and Ukraine and stamping out anti-genocide protests at home nothing good can be in store for the USA in the future. EDIT: It's sad that the userbase here is just as insane as the world news userbase over on reddit.
Coming from a World War Champ like Russia... 😬
Not the threat he thinks it is.
Buried lede: Russia thinks its "three-day special military operation to
de-nazifyremove US biolabsde-NATOresurrect the Soviet Union could take a decade. 😂Also, they think they might need a decade to defeat a power that has a fifth of its military size, and which has, so far, roundly managed to make a laughingstock out of much of the Russian military.