'Not a religion': Florida governor signs school chaplain bill, says Satanists not welcome
'Not a religion': Florida governor signs school chaplain bill, says Satanists not welcome
Lawsuit time. BRB, gotta go donate to TST.
Honestly I feel like Desantis wins either way, he loves defunding his own government over vain attempts to oppress minorities.
BRB, off to go buy some TST shirts and hoodies
Ron DeSantis now judges what a religion is or isn't?
In the article he says "Satan has no place in our schools" but what is Christianity without Satan?
I don’t believe Christianity is a real religion. Do I get to ban it from my business?
My deeply held belief is that their is not now nor has their ever been any God in this reality, can churches please be removed from any street I drive down?
I'm cool with them having buildings, they just have to pay taxes to fund those roads because their LARPing doesn't have any backing to justify the exemption.
This is a textbook example of the "establishment of religion" prohibited by the First Amendment.
Laws for thee not for me!
If you’re not the proper government mandated religion, you’re not welcome in Florida.
Imo if you pass a clearly unconstitutional law you should maybe be liable for some of the court costs.
The ultimate arbiter of constitutionality is the Supreme Court. Given the current court, are you sure that's what you want?
DeSantis conveniently didn't mention Mosque leaders as teaching the kids. I wonder why that was. Does Florida not recognize Islam as a religion? Or did he just not want to point out that was a possibility...
Does Florida not recognize Islam as a religion?
This is, unironically, an argument American conservatives are making
Or did he just not want to point out that was a possibility…
There's two prongs to this kind of assault. The "we're just opening the door to religion in schools" angle uses liberal egalitarianism to shoe horn in reactionary ideology. Then the "they're too dangerous to let near your kids" angle is used to pry rival ideologies away.
What you end up with is a singular "safe" educational platform that just happens to be Ron's favorite flavor of white supremacy, with any other belief categorized as a form of subversive or derogatory hate speech.
Oooook, that's legit not something Florida can rule on. Its in direct violation of their own state constitution.
SECTION 3. Religious freedom.—There shall be no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting or penalizing the free exercise thereof. Religious freedom shall not justify practices inconsistent with public morals, peace or safety. No revenue of the state or any political subdivision or agency thereof shall ever be taken from the public treasury directly or indirectly in aid of any church, sect, or religious denomination or in aid of any sectarian institution.
If belief in God is a religion the belief in their adversary ie. Satan must also be a religion. Ie. Either both are religions or neither are.
Notably there's more evidence that by Floridas definition that Christianity isn't a religion given its support of violent prostilyzing, child rape, and incest.
the TST is technically a religious institute so uh. Good luck have fun.
I think the COS also is but fuck the COS the COS can eat dick.
It's ironic because denying that Satan has followers would be considered blasphemy in many Christian denominations.
Until there are some kind of real penalties for submitting unconstitutional legislation, we will not be able to stop these clowns from abusing our state legislatures.
Seriously I’ve said it before if you’ve backed legislation found to be blatantly unconstitutional you should be removed from office.
Who Watches The Watchmen?
Who gets to decide what constitutes "Unconstitutional Legislation" and dole out the penalties? The courts (stacked with conservatives)? The police (staffed with fascists)? The voters (caged until only the Republicans have a functional majority)?
At some level, this is a popular movement of the Elect. It isn't just Ron going off on a limb. He's got enormous financial and social support from other like minded white supremacists.
That's not something you can combat without an organized opposition.
Yes, this is the danger of fascism playing with language.
They aren't trying to be logical or fair. They aren't here for debate. They're here to do what they want to do, period.
Which is why they also inevitably fall apart, (eventually) they can't even have that conversation internal to the movement and agree on what it is they want to do.
It really should have to pass some form of nonpartisan review before being able to be introduced. I hate that as a private citizen, I have to track possible legislation and make time during the day to tell them that it's clearly unconstitutional, have them pass it anyways, and then wait between 2-10 years for the courts to tell them (maybe).
I've been thinking along the same lines for a while. If I call 911 and submit a knowingly false report, I get charged with a crime. If I submit knowingly false paperwork to the government, I can be charged with a crime or at least infraction and fined.
But these people we elect who have entire staffs that are for making sure they always have enough information are submitting blatantly unconstitutional laws just to get them passed through a majority congress to be again and again shot down at the judicial level should really face consequences.
Though I don't know what that would be without it being used to easily punish political opponents. If there's a law that does this and gives the judiciary more power, how will it be used when conservatives control those 2 branches?
There's a long history of lynching and SWATing in America that suggests otherwise.