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I use Linux because I like to know that if my computer doesn't do what I want, it's my own damn fault (and not some corporation trying to screw me over).

I use Linux because when I encounter an issue there are numerous helpful forum posts and KB articles that cover it, even for really uncommon glitches. Whereas on Windows for even slightly obtuse errors, you just get the same base-level troubleshooting suggestions and AI listicles. Windows obscures actual useful information from end users which makes troubleshooting issues harder.
cough Canonical cough
Exactly. There’s something reassuring about it always being a skill issue. Am I going to develop those skills? Probably not. But I could.
I actually helped drive someone at my bike co-op to linux by comparing it to why I fix my bike. My bike is janky, but I’m the one who fucked it up. And no irritation is “get over it” it’s “here’s what it would take to fix it, decide if it’s worth it”

At least I get to find out why the spyware doesn't work... and fix it 💪.

On the other hand, I have a hard time explaining to my family why shit in my computer constantly doesn't work... or I'm in the process of fixing it 😂.

Man I really wonder what the venn diagram of Linux users/furries are. But I'm thinking it might be a circle within a circle kinda thing.

It's just the same classic bleed over of socially awkward nerds being into multiple things, like Star Trek, Star Wars, tech, programming, RPG gaming, anime, comic books, and of course, the furry fandom.
You'll find lots of Linux users among those subgroups too.
- [x] Lemmy
  [ ] Star Trek
  [ ] Star Wars
  [x] Tech
  [x] Programming
  [×] Unicode
  [x] RPG gaming (D&D)
  [ ] Anime
  [ ] Comic books
  [ ] Furry
- I'm a Linux user since 2010. I've been pure Linux since 2020. I do not fall under any of those groups tho :/
It is not two concentric circles, but the overlap is gigantic.
Both circles are entirely contained within a larger circle that says "neurodiverse people", though.
I have a furry for a friend who's a die-hard windows and Microsoft guy
So it's more IT, less Linux
- The evil tech savvy people
It starts with fuzzy socks

How do I find out where to look?
- Program documentation first, Arch Wiki second, Gentoo third, surfing the web as a last resort, then ask the forum in the same order. The problem is that there is no universal way to log stuff to so I can't really point out where to look.
- /var/log

I'm in no way a Windows fan. Use manjaro for desktop, and ubuntu for servers as of now but keep trying new distros and love changing all the time, unfortunately. However, I dread to think if I was stuck on another planet with a linux distro without internet access to troubleshoot or find out how to do random things...

And what would you do on that other planet without Internet and stuck with Microsoft Windows and no way to activate your OEM license ? At least Linux has nice manual pages to read in the main time off-line 😄
- I have an unactivated windows computer I've been using for 3 years, it works fine and even gets updates it just says "activate windows" in the corner of the screen.
I know right? You might have to use the man pages.
- I love it how you just want to do something simple and very, very common and normal with a command but you don't know the magic flags to get it to do it and they're not just a logical one (like, say "-a" for all) so you do a man for it and it has something like 50 flags listed in alphabethical rather than functional order, some of which only make sense in specific combinations (which are never show together and have to be found by reading the entries for all 50 flags) and there are no examples anywhere to be found of normal usage scenarios for that command.
  So that's when you use some internet search engine and it turns out the most common simplest use of it is something like "doshit --lol --nokidding --verbose=3".
Drop manjaro l, start using endeavor, thank me later when your system doesnt randomly break on an update

unbutt

That's so stupid, why am I laughing

There was an Ubuntu meme logo going around in the mid-2000s that was just the regular logo but three different people's butts touching in the center.

Me this past weekend trying to setup GPU passthrough to a VM. Bought an AMD card just to passthrough my existing Nvidia one and have had nothing but issues with multiple distros 😔

Good to know, I was just thinking of doing this exact thing. I haven't pulled the trigger on the AMD card though. I wanted it for wayland, but I still want to do CUDA things with my Nvidia card.

The problem with that meme comic is that it doesn't state which distro the fox was using, as far as the level of supported requires.

Everyone who uses Linux knows that there are some distros that require more 'tender loving care' by their users than others.

"unbutt" and something below it, with the circle logo, it's unbuntu.
It's probably a broken snap package or something.

Lol, I relate with this a lot.

I always figure it out, but Linux is not user friendly. The last issue I had was trying to get my vpn to work. It took me a few minutes to realize my vpn provider doesn't support a gui on there.

This is the issue with Linux. It needs better support and adaptation. If it got that focus from third parties, I'd gladly make it my daily driver.

Here's to hoping the attempts from companies like steam are only the beginning of a new thriving trend!

The terminal is not an accessory like on Windows, it's apart of the daily Linux experience
- If more casual PC users got on to it, i wouldn't call it a daily experience. Yeah you need to use it some times but once everyone is set, you dont really need to mess with it
  I switched to Mint a few months ago and to be fair I have only messed with it a couple of times mainly just after the initial installation
- If Linux wants to ever have adoption outside tech people then it can't be. If a normide has to open up a terminal then that's already one less Linux user.
  I have used Linux for my main PC for a very long time but I have also worked in tech support and your average user will never ever use an OS where using the terminal is mandatory.
  I my opinion there should be some hobbyist distros where the terminal is your daily experience like Arch or Gentoo but the main focus should be accessibility for the average user if adoptability is a goal.
- It shouldn't be though. A command line interface is not user friendly for entry-level users, and until Linux UX designers realise this, Linux will never gain a greater market share. And we have seen this with Ubuntu, Mint, and other "user friendly" distros gaining popularity. I'm not saying that we should necessarily aim for broad-scale adoption of Linux as an end in itself, but more users means more support for Linux which means a better experience for all.
On my end, like --
I have about as many tech issues with Windows as with Linux -- It comes with me enjoying tinkering as a hobby I think?
BUT, and this is important, when shit breaks on Linux, there is always output on the terminal, or a log file, or something else you can check, and even when I don't know what to do about it, a simple copypaste of the error on internet search usually gets me some answers.
When shit breaks on Windows? HOLY FUCKING SHIT. It just sorta dies and leaves you in the dark with nothing to go on for troubleshooting. Windows wants to make computers into magic boxes that "just werk", but it never really gets there, and instead what you get is something that breaks just as often, but is a lot more opaque.
That BSOD with an emoticon lives rent-free in my head. Like who the fuck thought it was a good idea?
- Also, even when you actually get an error message (which you probably had to dig through the awful mess that is the event viewer... Seriously, the only update they've made to it in the last twenty years was to split a bunch of things into a ton of individual logs that are more than painful to dig through), it's cryptic (if it tells you anything at all) and pasting it into search gives you nothing relevant, and quoting it gives you nothing at all (even the part that's obviously the generic part of the error), or if it does, it's a couple hits with people asking for help and either getting no replies, unhelpful replies that misunderstand the issue, or tells them they're asking in the wrong Microsoft support forum
  Like... Come on, Microsoft. You clearly coded this error in the operating system. Put at least one page in documents online with at least something useful about it...

but at the end it is possible to solve any and all problems linux, and troubleshooting difficult cryptic errors successfully makes you feel like a very smart god

Until you forget what you've done and face the same issue again.
Eh, not a god. But the solution is somewhere there...
- Omnipotent, just not omniscient.
Sometimes it takes way too long though. I had a display issue that made many of my tiny Linux boxes stop working and it took me almost a month to figure out the issue. I had to revert to an older kernal to fix them all. They just randomly stopped working one day lol. Makes me not want to accept updates so that's not great

When I see these kind of posts I can't help but think that maybe they're being made by people who could be astroturfing for another company and it’s OS, in a negative way, to redirect the narrative.

Because Microsoft cares so much about an 18.6K-member community called “linuxmemes” on a small federated Reddit alternative known for being filled with die-hard Linux fans and furries?
- Because Microsoft cares so much about an 18.6K-member community called “linuxmemes” on a small federated Reddit alternative known for being filled with die-hard Linux fans and furries?
  The company a corporation would hire to do that sort of thing would use a shotgun approach to the redirection postings. With bots it would be easy for them to do.
- There's ~~vermin~~ furries here?
  Gross.
That's what we call a conspiracy theory
- That’s what we call a conspiracy theory
  Why? You honestly don't believe that corporations never try to manipulate the narrative/message for their benefit/profit?
  Early Microsoft was well known for wielding the FUD factor.

Could not be me. Not about the 🦊 part, but the failing to work part. The software fears me. The software knows it's a cog in a machine, one that's easily replacable. And I'm not one to get sentimental.

Cute

Hey, this Linux meme fun thread ended up in a Linux support help-desk questions thread. How untypical :-)

Me after I spent a whole evening being unable to boot into grub after trying to get Wayland to work. Wayland will have to wait for a bit longer...

NVidia?
- Secureboot?
- Yuppers. I need CUDA for my machine learning projects, both for hobby and professionally. I considered AMD and their alternative at the time, but it wasn't supported on their consumer cards back then, and I also didn't fully trust their commitment. It's getting better though, so hopefully AMD can convince me for my next GPU in a few years.