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Iran launches drone attack against Israel as Biden rushes to White House

www.theguardian.com

Iran launches drone and missile strike against Israel as Biden rushes back to White House

Iran said it launched dozens of drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel on Saturday in a major attack following days of acute tension building up in the region and warnings from the US and elsewhere about a wider conflict erupting.

Air attack warning sirens began wailing over Jerusalem just before 2am local time on Sunday after the weapons were fired a few hours earlier from Iran with US and Jordanian military assisting Israel’s air defenses in intercepting the first incoming barrage.

With weapons believed to be still in the air en route to Israel, Iran’s mission to the United Nations posted on X: “Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus. The matter can be deemed concluded.”

However, it threatened more severe action in the face of further Israeli aggression and warned the US and Jordan specifically not to assist Israel.

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Edit: here are links to the NYT and BBC live feeds.

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Yeah, Iran sucks and everything, but didn't Israel start this by bombing their embassy in Syria? If Israel had been held to account for that, maybe we wouldn't be looking at yet another flashpoint involving a nuclear armed state.
I don't know what anyone expected Iran to do here.
- didn’t Israel start this by bombing their embassy in Syria?
  Israel bombed their embassy in Syria as a response to Iran helping Hezbollah and Hamas. At one point an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps spokesman said October 7th was a response to the death of Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani, although they later retracted that. The Israelis wanted Soleimani gone because of his role in supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and earlier attacks on Israel, including his involvement in the 2006 war in Lebanon. Etc. etc. etc. on and on back to before Iran became Iran.
  The middle-east is an illustration of the idiom "An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind".
  
  If we keep going back, Israel has committed far too many hostilities that were never responded to. Hell, they bomb syria most weeks without any retaliation form Syria. They commit horrors against west bank citizens all the time.
- Let's not forget that it was the US that started this trend of killing Iranian generals.
  
  Has the US ever bombed an embassy? Knowing your post history, I have a feeling you left out that detail for a reason.
  
  Let’s not forget the same thing I have to say every fucking time in one of these posts: Just because the United States did something wrong does not mean others should follow
  You guys need to learn from our fuck ups!
- iran is funding and arming hamas, hizballah and the houthis, all of which were attacking israel.
  in addition to their attacks on usa bases.
  
  Wasn't Hamas created in response to Israeli aggression?
  Not defending Hamas, but they don't exist in a vacuum.
  
  iran is funding and arming hamas, hizballah and the houthis, all of which were attacking israel. in addition to their attacks on usa bases.
  don't forget that those fucks also support Russia with their drones...
  
  Yes, it does, and it sucks. It's basically war over there. That said, attacking an embassy is a line where Israel's actions should have been condemned. The point is not that Iran is in the right in any way, the point is Israel is just as wrong here.
  
  Meanwhile Israel funds and arms terrorist groups in Iran like the Mojahiden-e-khalq or Al-Nusra in Syria, in addition to their cyber attacks on Iran and assassinations of Iranian scientists.
So now the Zionist spam brigades have started infesting Lemmy as well judging from some of the comments here. Very sad to see that. Last time I checked on Reddit it was already unbearable there.
This is really bad news, and by no means do I support Iran. But the attack on Irans embassy should have caused sanctions and condemnations. Instead Biden rushed to defend Israel as if Israel wouldn’t have started this.
I can’t believe what a fucking tragedy this is. With the US elections upcoming, Biden being prepared to die on this hill is what may actually cause that Trump wins and the US turns into full on fascism. Needless to say Trump won’t do jackshit for Palestinians either.
- Western media hypocrisy made it seem mike an ordinary thing to target embassies, which have a very particular status akin to targeting the homeland territory , some mainstream media barely touched upon the news or dismissed it completely, if it were any other country like Russia targeting an EU embassy in asia or Africa it would have been non-stop news and escalation. they manufacture the outrage on small issues and keep the people ignorant on more important ones.
- I think it's fair to rush to intercept. It's a purely defensive action, and if they're able to intercept the entire barrage of attacks, Israel may not retaliate. It's in everyone's best interest -- Iran included -- that this doesn't escalate even farther and farther.
  Iran had all the right to do this, but that doesn't mean they should have. The ideal situation would be for the US and company to prevent attacks from landing and then telling Israel to end their genocidal operations unless they want to face the next wave themselves.
  And if Israel refuses, then let Netanyahu handle it himself. Make good on our threat to not help.
  
  This drone attack by Iran may have more to do with "showing" it's little vassal terrorist groups it's prodding and bankrolling into doing Iran's dirty work that Iran is "doing" something militarily in support of Hamas and the Houthi.
  What is a drone strike that is going to take 8 to 10 hours to arrive supposed to accomplish when it's so easy to spot coming well ahead of time. It's not like Iran doesn't have missiles that can hit Israel in a handful of minutes if Iran really wanted to do damage.
- They've been here for a while. Try reading new posts and find the negative vote comments. Same for y'all-queda and the qultists and white supremacists, and tankies, and most misinformation campaigns. It is the internet after all.
- This is all due to the breakdown of norms by allowing Israel to do whatever it wants. Respect for American soft power is non existent because of the double standard with Israel, Russia and the Middle East. Now American citizens get dragged into another war that they don't want by the ruling class.
  
  Not just allowing israel to do so, but providing them with weapons and now America and the UK are even intercepting any retaliation. Making sure nobody can fight back against the bully.
- The same embassy that was full of Hezbollah? Iran is a terrorist state that sponsors terrorism.
  
  Terrorist is a meaningless word.
- It's a good thing that Israel's retaliation is never disproportionate.
  
  Obligatory, since people are not getting it:
  https://youtu.be/SZE4pEKc6WY
  There can not be a "cost of doing business" for the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Has anyone here ever wondered why Hezbollah are so tame in this conflict, why they are so deathly afraid of an escalation? Hint: They are seeing the footage from Gaza too, they too are keeping track of how every single Hamas commander is being systematically hunted down, how Israel is willing and able to level an entire apartment block just to get one of them, global public opinion be damned - or, if they are feeling particularly humane that day, sending a small missile or drone precisely into the window that commander happens to be sitting behind.
  How anyone expected anything but pure hellfire in response to the October 7 massacres and rapes is beyond me. No nation on Earth would have reacted any differently. The likes of Switzerland or Denmark would have gone medieval on the perpetrators in a situation like this. Iran is playing a very dangerous game. One "lucky" hit by one of their missiles or drones, e.g. into a busy crowd, school or hospital, could spell the end of the regime in Tehran.
- they also sent cruise missiles
I am going to take the US perspective in all this and ask why they fuck are we even getting involved? They are half a world away. Why are Israel and Turkey? US allies? What have they done for us? Because it seems like we give them an awful lot and don't get very much in return. The US should focus on defending the US and let Israel, Iran and all the rest of them have their part of the world with their conflicts. Just leave us the hell out of it.
Edit: And we need to stay the hell out of their business and leave them the fuck alone to run their countries the way they want to.
- It's the Middle East. It has a huge amount of a particularly important strategic resource. Additionally, the countries there generally have, at best, a cold relationship with the US. If not outright adversarial.
  Israel is smack dab in the middle of it with access to the sea. It holds a massively important strategic military and geopolitical position for the US.
  So, sure, what the other poster says is definitely part of it, but I think what primarily drives US support to be seemingly unequivocal is that the US/Israel alliance is also very important to US geopolitical influence as well.
  
  As for that natural resource, we have quite a bit of it here in the United States itself. So we wouldn't have to rely on them to get that resource. That, and if the US really wanted to break away, they could very seriously incentivize the purchase of electric mobility devices, such as electric bikes and scooters and cars.
Congratulations to the US for breaking apart any sort of pretension of support for international law by allowing Israel to do whatever the fuck they want. Now we're going to let the crazed leadership of Iran and Israel to drag everyone around them and abroad into further military conflict. Goddamn morons don't know how to say "this is too far".
- Ah yes, the turmoil between Muslim and Jewish populations which has only existed since the founding of America in 1776.
  I wonder if Biden ever regrets creating such dogmatic differences when he gave birth to the cultures of the fertile crescent.
  
  Israel couldn't function without continued US support, this isn't some abstract, the US political establishment enables Israeli atrocities and turns a blind eye to their seizing of territory, even just last month Israel annexed Palestinian territory illegally with the full support of the West.
  
  This is an awful take. Jews and Muslim populations are not separate races that have fought since existence. Israeli's are mostly German; they do not have a corresponding Muslim population.
  Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Muslims lived fine together till Israel started 75 years ago.
  Same with Iranian Jews and Iranian Muslims.
  Same with Iraqis, Yemenis, and North Africans
  Warden (War loving Biden) has focused more on Israel than abortion, legalizing marijuana, equality, health insurance, taxes, and everything else he promised since he has took office.
It feels like watching the Cuban missile crisis. A sinking uncomfortable feeling. I think the news has legitimately traumatized me. Breaking news means the next horrible thing has happened.
- Actual breaking news in a 24-hours news cycle is never a good thing.
The world is waking up to the fact that treaties are just papers and words mean nothing. Basically what Hitler did 80 years ago but now it's every leader.
*iran defends itself after israel brazenly attacked their embassy in syria
So, uh, are we doing World War 3 now? Just asking because I need to know if I should be canceling my summer plans and investing in canned food.
- I am not expecting a full scale war on "developed" countries up until China does something. Because, you know, it is against capitalism.
- Honest answer, should've been investing in canned food yesterday. Today is the next best day to start.
- No. Sorry. This is Cold War II.
  
  ~~Cold wars don't have direct conflict.~~ Nevermind.
Capitalism / hegemony
Would you look at the time. It's april 13th the day history starts
Inflight Emergency (IFE) declared via squawk 7700 for USAF tanker, now returning to al-Udeid from over Iraq (electrical).
QUICK UPDATE:
Iran names the operation "The Promise of Truth."
Israeli aircraft are positioned over western Iraq.
Interceptions have commenced over Jordan and Syria. A number of middle east Arab states announcing that they'll knock down anything in their skies
Incidents of drones crashing in western Iraq have been reported.
Iranian media suggests that ballistic missiles will be launched from Iran in the early hours of the morning.
Airspace across the Middle East is closed
Al-Arabiya reports that British fighter jets are now involved in operation to interceptal Iranian drones launched against Israel
6 p.m. ET Isreal should start to see missles, rockets and drones
I know Israel is a small country of only 10M people with a traumatic history surrounded by enemies...so they need to act tough in their neighbourhood, take no shit and all...but they start to feel like the tiny angry girlfriend who dates a big guy and picks up fights in every bar expecting everyone to be afraid that her date will come to the rescue every time...
- but they start to feel like the tiny angry girlfriend who dates a big guy and picks up fights in every bar expecting everyone to be afraid that her date will come to the rescue every time…
  Lol, I called them US's little Chihuahua dog that rabidly barks at any moving object
  
  Chihuahuas don’t kill so many children.
I know this is not the time for this typa comment, but I'm really annoyed that what I said last week is proven true
Imma be completely honest and say that Iran probably won’t do anything except maybe throw some cruise missiles from afar that hit some random outpost or send a drone because they don’t want to risk anything.
I’d love to see a competent air force take on the IAF, but I don’t think anyone in the middle east actually has one besides Israel and the USA’s own bases.
This attack is over hyped and kinda lame. When India and Pakistan had beef in 2019, they had a whole ass air skirmish which ended with a captured pilot, fratricide'd helicopter, a crap ton of artillery barrages, and possibly a second aircraft shot down.
Regardless of the poor reasoning behind it, at least they had the guts to fight each other properly.
Iran is just sitting back and sending a swarm of drones that will probably fail to deal any damage proportional to their embassy attack, all the while escalating with Israel which gives both Israel and the USA a reason to send even more weapons and supplies and finish their job decimating Gaza.
- This attack is over hyped and kinda lame
  I feel so sorry for you, Internet poster, that this war isn't living up to entertainment standards.
Iran has officially declared the start of the attack on Israel. “The evil regime will be punished,” its leader said.
LOL! Iran calling someone else evil is really something. I'm eager to see where this round of fuck around and find out ends, since Israel is not known for forgivness. Only good thing I see at the moment is that Iran maybe has to stop supporting the russians to save equipment for their own stupid war.
- I didn’t realize that whenever you punched someone else and they punched back that’s fucking around and finding out.
  Israel started this, remember that.
  The stupid fucking British are involved.
  Everybody wants to kick off fucking World War III because Israel wanted to fucking destroy shit and then hide because they’re too tiny to do anything about it
- Oh no the FAFO israel lovers have arrived

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