1y ago

The Future of AI

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And the problem is that since these dickwads want to close source their neural networks, we wasting billions of watts training on similar data sets repeatedly generating models with minor differences over and over again. If there was a truly awesome open source model, then we could train on top of it and create more complex and complex models targeted at the good of humankind. But no, stakeholders must get profits. When will they understand that the entire humanity is a stakeholder in this planet.
- Good news is that open source approach appears to be advancing faster than closed models https://steve-yegge.medium.com/were-gonna-need-a-bigger-moat-478a8df6a0d2
  
  That article is from 10 months ago.
  Is open source catching up still? Or have the goalposts moved too much since then?
If you can't use it for porn and you can't use it to make pictures of powerful people in unflattering situations then what is the use case for AI?
Lol I always love AI discussions, it invariably involves sides of people not affected by it flinging shit at each other. Very crunchy popcorn, scrumptious, even.
whats the alternative, open source sora? jesus christ our legal system couldnt handle it, the amount of deepfake porn would be horrifying.
- AI tech should absolutely be open source. Anybody who thinks that megacrops should be gatekeepers for this sort of stuff can fuck right off.
  
  no, it should be burnt to the ground
  
  fuck right off for being against deepfake porn 💀
Good. The viability of creative jobs is more important than letting some dweebs LARP as artists and make bespoke porn for themselves .
- Amazing that we live in year 2024, and there are still people out there who don't get the importance of keeping technology open.
  
  They understand.
  They want to take money.
  Everyone intuitively knows what is best for humanity
  Most people even know that money won't bring happiness
  But most are bought in and the hunter gatherer competitive instincts are stronger than reason
  
  Yeah we don’t want the rich fat cats hoarding all the digitally generated under age porn for themselves.
- artists aren't excused from technological proletarianization. Yes it hurts, you are going to get the value of your labor stolen by Disney and you will have to work in AI prompt generator mines. Billions of artisans, peasants and petty bourgeois in history have suffered the same indignity of being forced into wage labor. The bourgeoisie strips of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the writer, the scientist, into its paid wage labourers. Now it is the artist's turn. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and humans are compelled to face with sober senses their real conditions of life, and their relations with their kind. So do not expect the bourgeoisie or their governments to provide you or or your occupation with special protections, they don't care, they exist to make profit and they will crush you into dust as soon it's profitable to do so.
  The solution is and has always been class consciousness followed by proletarian revolution. If there is any upside to proletarianization it is that more people are introduced into the only revolutionary class. Put your artistic talents to use and create some agitprop, but don't expect to be paid for it. Every reward we get has to be fought for.
- Protecting creative jobs is extremely important, full stop. AI generation is a destabilizing development, I don't want to see it locked up in walled gardens or thrown away though. What I hope to see is a new generation of artists pushing the boundaries with open source AI tools. Yeah a lot of that's going to be bespoke porn... What am I even saying...?
  We're just apes with fancy tools afterall. The same things were said about photoshop and digital art. We'll be fine, just get stocked up with some brain bleach.
  
  Every non artist who doesn’t know shit about any creative workflow always regurgitates this “it’s a tool that will empower artists” line. Every working artist who understands what they’re talking about says this will lead to the elimination of 90% of jobs and just leave one underpaid guy churning out stolen artwork at a breakneck pace.
- It's impossible to LARP as an artist. Everyone who creates is an artist, whether you like it or not.
  
  AI tech bros don’t create anything and probably never will. The merchant who said “please paint a picture of my wife here’s some money” didn’t create the Mona Lisa. Da Vinci, the guy who actually painted it, created the Mona Lisa.
- Artists three years ago: Being an artist under capitalism sucks ass, I'm forced to make soulless corporate "art" for almost no money and I hate it.
  Artists now: Hey! My corporate art gigs!
  If AI can replace your job, you weren't doing art, you were doing illustration. That's like 19th century painters complaining about photographs replacing royal portraits. Sucks for the lost income (the same way it sucks for anyone whose job is automated, artists aren't special there, almost none of the jobs from 200 years ago still exist). But let's not pretend that what is being replaced had great creative or artistic value to begin with. If it did, AI couldn't do it.

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