So far left you get your guns back.
So far left you get your guns back.
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An armed left is like base level marxism, how are people still surprised by that at this point?
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Because American media keeps pushing the idea that the Democrats are "the left" and because Democrats oppose guns because the Republicans promote them, they equate owning a gun with being a part of "the right".
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Also far right conservative men are given all the permission in the world to threaten violence whereas many groups of people on the left, and leftism in general are defined by conservatives as inherently dangerous which both makes it practically much more dangerous to own guns and carry them (because you will just got shot by a cop and the cop won't even get in trouble they can just say "they looked dangerous") and also makes a culture of responsible gun ownership way harder to grow because the societal conditions around it are aggressively hostile to leftwing people owning guns.
Listen to the way centrists talk about the threat of violence from the far left and far right in the US, of course there are shitty, dangerous people on the left, but to compare the two as if there were similar amounts of violence coming from both is a ridiculous misstatement of reality.
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Yeah - in non US places gun ownership only means one thing: you own a gun. It says nothing about your politics. And yes, US democrats being referred to as “left” is ridiculous. The Democrat party wouldn’t even be a centrist party in most (western) democracies.
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Republicans "support" guns up until black people start marching with them.
Democrats "oppose" guns except for the police who shoot black people.
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Democrats don't oppose guns. Democrats are for base-level gun control. Republicans are insane, NRA-supporting fools who would rather 5 year old children get massacred weekly instead of have any potential gun controls.
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Liberalism is considered "left" to most people
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'murica moment.
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An armed left is like base level marxism
And then what?
Suppose you get falsely charged by the state because of your politics, what are you going to do? Get into armed conflict against the police officers coming to arrest you?
Is that what Steven Donziger should have done?
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It's not like armed insurgencies don't happen in modern countries. Look up the IRA. Even if you are not keen on blowing up billionaires, you can still shoot meal team six as they try to bring back lynching and the KKK.
That said, disarming the country including the police, especially the police, would be more conductive to a peaceful life. So would actual democratic representation.
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Then you get your single shot rifle and storm the the king's palace with it, against a bunch of people with single shot rifles, kill them all, kill a king, all his family, and thus establish a military goverment. Because it's apparently it's 19th century now.
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The impression is that the left is the only side calling for gun control.
Despite the most sweeping gun control implemented by Reagan, and Trumpty dumpty literally floated illegal search and seizure for firearms.
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perhaps at the federal level, but California and Washington liberals have passed sweeping gun control laws that severely impinge on law abiding citizens, and the AFT under Biden criminalized brace pistols, turning millions of law abiding citizens into criminals overnight. Only a SC ruling kept them from pursuing arrest for people who legally purchased their firearms, including a full background check for their purchases.
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It's never been about left and right. It's always been a war with the owner class and everyone else.
We occasionally forget; until everything falls apart and greed ruins everything. That's when the fight starts again.
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Perpetual war is a big feature of the society in 1984
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𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕾𝖊𝖈𝖔𝖓𝖉 𝕬𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖉𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙
𝔄 𝔴𝔢𝔩𝔩-𝔯𝔢𝔤𝔲𝔩𝔞𝔱𝔢𝔡 𝔪𝔦𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔦𝔞, 𝔟𝔢𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔫𝔢𝔠𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔞𝔯𝔶 𝔱𝔬 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔰𝔢𝔠𝔲𝔯𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔬𝔣 𝔞 𝔣𝔯𝔢𝔢 𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔱𝔢, 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 𝔱𝔬 𝔨𝔢𝔢𝔭 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔟𝔢𝔞𝔯 𝔄𝔯𝔪𝔰 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔫𝔬𝔱 𝔟𝔢 𝔦𝔫𝔣𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔡.
𝓚𝓪𝓻𝓵 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝔁
𝒰𝓃𝒹ℯ𝓇 𝓃ℴ 𝓅𝓇ℯ𝓉ℯ𝓍𝓉 𝓈𝒽ℴ𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒶𝓇𝓂𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒶𝓂𝓂𝓊𝓃𝒾𝓉𝒾ℴ𝓃 𝒷ℯ 𝓈𝓊𝓇𝓇ℯ𝓃𝒹ℯ𝓇ℯ𝒹. 𝒜𝓃𝓎 𝒶𝓉𝓉ℯ𝓂𝓅𝓉 𝓉ℴ 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓇𝓂 𝓉𝒽ℯ 𝓌ℴ𝓇𝓀ℯ𝓇𝓈 𝓈𝒽ℴ𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷ℯ 𝒻𝓇𝓊𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉ℯ𝒹, 𝒷𝓎 𝒻ℴ𝓇𝒸ℯ 𝒾𝒻 𝓃ℯ𝒸ℯ𝓈𝓈𝒶𝓇𝓎.
this was a struggle but ran it through a word processor, its a great quote and when most of the world have failed to stand by, many have also forgotten or never knew. sadly guns now have a political agenda strapped to them and i wish they didn't
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“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
― Karl Marx** **:::
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How do you do that, like change the font?
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Average U.S. school trip.
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True story for Americans: You should exercise your 2nd Amendment right unless you want only the Right to have guns.
If you actually listened to the Right's leaders, they're openly telling you that you should be picking out your favorite at the shop now.
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Yeah I'm becoming increasingly nervous with the blue states systematically trying to disarm everyone and the red states are trying to whip everyone into a traitorous frenzy over the dumbest shit while arming everyone with a pulse.
Otoh, and this probably sounds absolutely fucking nuts, I've found republicans tend to understand "strength" and they are strangely respectful of liberal and leftist gun owners because that's a dynamic they can comprehend. It's not a good state of affairs but it's better than them believing they can just run things because they're the only ones with "strength"
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...everyone you dislike?
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Lovely, everyone in this thread is exactly the same as a trump supporter but a left version of it. You guys are a wet dream for the NRA
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Yeah, nobody but people like you make these false comparisons
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Look at those nails. I can guarantee she has not fired a gun in her life.
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You're firing guns wrong
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If you say so.
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This is explicitly not horse shoe theory.
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Ok I hate all of this.
They're not the same, but they're kind of the same personality type. They frequently care about the same things, they just want very aggressive change to fix them. The issue is the path to get there and those are wildly different in terms of what the problem is and the underlying world view.
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The horseshoe theory is a bullshit idea cooked up by politically deficient liberals to cope with everyone thinking they're a joke
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WTF is with her nails? Is painting each hand a different color a thing with the kids now? Also those are claws but I've seen that before IRL.
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Painting nails different colors has always been a thing lol
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Those whippersnappers and their differently colored nails, unbelievable! That's what's wrong with society!
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It's uh, not that big a deal.
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Her left hand is red and her right is blue. Perhaps to demonstrate how politics works for the unknowing?
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"I am no longer accepting the things I cannot change. I am changing the things I cannot accept."
I love Angela Davis. I really need to learn more about her. I saw this video posted somewhere during 2020, and for folks who can resist the urge to impatiently skip past what she's setting up in the beginning, the payoff at the end of her response to the banal question of whether she supports violence for her cause is (IMO) exceptionally powerful.
https://youtu.be/2HnDONDvJVE
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Thank you for the reco. I will check this out and keep your comment in mind.
isn't this more broadly a reference to the Serenity Prayer than any one person?
It's her reversal of the Serenity Prayer, changing it into a call to action instead of acceptance of the (seemingly) inevitable.
So what is that supposed to mean?
Changing everything you can't change?
What does "not accepting those things you cannot change", means? It feels somehow like very self centered gibberish.
Please enlighten me.
You're being downvoted because people people think you're being obtuse, but, as a person that overuses logical thinking to a diagnosable degree, my suspicion is that you're doing that. Also because your tone is kind of...not good.
The whole point of the Serenity Prayer ("accept the things I cannot change") is that it includes "change the things I can" -- so the things Davis is changing are things she CAN change, by definition.
But her point is that she is reframing what she believes she can and cannot change. Recategorizing, if you will.
She's invoking the third part of the Serenity Prayer: the wisdom to know the difference. As we grow and learn, our wisdom increases, so the things that belong in the first two categories will shift.
Things that used to be things that can't be changed are becoming things that she can.
To understand the quote, you just have to give it some space to breathe, and not be so logical about it.
There is a common prayer called the serenity prayer that includes a line about accepting the things you cannot change. The idea being it's not worth stressing out over aspects of your life that you have no control over and to instead focus on what you can do something about.
She is playing off that by saying she's no longer going to accept those things and is now going to fight to change them. I'm not familiar with her but presumably this would be regarding fighting injustices in the world.
Here is the full prayer (or at least the version I'm most familiar with):
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Angela+Davis+I+am+no+longer+accepting+the+things+I+cannot+change+
Did she use an AK to effect her change?
At least once, yes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Davis