1y ago

Dark and Darker dev says Nexon's "trade secret and copyright" lawsuit against it has been dismissed

www.eurogamer.net

This means the game will probably get sold on Steam as well as other official stores. They were previously unable to due to the lawsuit.

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1y ago

Dark and Darker dev says Nexon's "trade secret and copyright" lawsuit against it has been dismissed

www.eurogamer.net /dark-and-darker-dev-says-nexons-trade-secret-and-copyright-lawsuit-against-it-has-been-dismissed

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The title feels misleading, this isn't the actual main lawsuit, the case is far from over. I doubt Steam will want to display the game again given that they are still in hot water legally
Kira has been covering the situation from the start and he has a great video talking about this development
- Didn’t want to watch the video so used kagi’s ai summarizer:
  Onepeg, a gaming YouTuber, tagged KieranTV in a tweet claiming that Nexon's case against IM had been dismissed in both US and Korean courts, which was factually untrue.
  When KieranTV questioned this, Onepeg doubled down and accused KieranTV of historically taking Nexon's side without cause.
  Reports from Korean media indicate that while the preliminary injunctions from both sides were dismissed, the judge noted it was likely Dark and Darker illegally stole from Nexon's P3 game.
  The case has not been fully dismissed and will continue to a full trial on the merits to determine the truth of Nexon's claims.
  Onepeg apologized for misrepresenting the facts but KieranTV remains skeptical of his motivations given his repeated doubling down.
  KieranTV's consistent position has been to want the truth determined fairly in court, not to take either side without cause.
  Coverage of legal cases can be complicated as the truth may not come out clearly even if the right party wins or loses.
  Fans of the game have previously harassed KieranTV for his neutral reporting on the case.
  Onepeg should have fact checked before tagging KieranTV and making claims about the case's outcome.
  Both sides will continue arguing their cases as the full trial moves forward.
It honestly feels like a very strange world where Palworld isn't investigated by Pokemon for infringement, but DnD is investigated by Nexon. Granted, I don't think either claim has validity.
- It's a pretty different situation under closer examination. The DnD developers are ex-Nexon employees and they (allegedly) pitched the idea internally before deciding to leave and take the idea with them.
  Nexon thought that they had a legal leg to stand on because of how IP laws work (i.e.: employee ideas on company time are company IP). Perhaps more importantly; they probably felt a need to retaliate in order to send a message to other employees who might want to try something similar.
  Palworld, on the other hand, is made by a team with no ties whatsoever to GameFreak. If Pokemon were a younger franchise they might possibly have a patent case of some kind, but even the 3D games go back almost 24 years now.
  
  It's my understanding that they were in fact working on a very similar game at Nexon that was canceled and will never be released. There's even leaked footage of the game out there.
- Palworld has no former employees of gamefreak and is a completely different game than Pokemon and a completely different genre. Some of the monsters look kind of similiar to pokemon but they arent copies.
  
  Honestly, all Palworld has to do is change a few models and they'd be out of the hot water. I do have to say though the few models that are noteworthy are HIGHLY problematic to a point of "X pokemon but color swapped"
- The palworld devs never worked on Pokemon. The dark and darker devs were, allegedly, employees of Nexon working on a similar game. It's completely different
- The DnD claim has a lot of validity, as a fan of DnD. Have you looked into it much?
  The DnD devs are accused of working on Nexons game, stealing source code, leaving nexon, and buying the same assets Nexon used to rapidly build DnD from p3's ashes. The main leader who quit nexon directly poached from the p3 team to build the clone game as well.
  I'm no Korean law expert, but there's something worth looking into there.
  Palworld just has a similar art style, and the idea of catching monsters in balls. There's a lot more mechanics to palworld than Pokémon has, whereas DnD was actually P3 but made by a new team.
- But Palworld is being investigated.
  
  The announcement they made seemed more like a statement of awareness than any foreboding of litigation. They already filed a takedown more specifically for the mod that changes to Pokemon models.
Did they end up reversing the micro transaction decision from a while back? I liked what I played, but I'm still not willing to pay money for any class that was included in the beta for free.
- the locked class' were unlocked for everyone after about 1 week due to backlash, they did listen at least. Different races are now for sale through points earned in game or real money. They are a cosmetic change with some minor stat differences (both good and bad so pretty balanced)
  
  Not so bad! Maybe I'll have to check it out again, thanks for the info

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