Prison Architect 2 - Official Announcement Trailer

I love Prison Architect, but I have absolutely 0 trust in Paradox, as they stand today

Can't say I'm excited. I remember how badly they butchered the original game when they bought it, not to mention that art style isn't great

They still haven't fixed the major bugs after how many years in the first game. I don't think I can trust them with a second.

Wait this isn't by Introversion? Passss.

They sold it after achieving success.
Oh, I didn't notice that. Good call.
Introversion is building a space game now: the last starship
Complete with regular video updates

I really dislike the new look. The first one had a simple but sleek aesthetic, this one just looks cheap and generic.

I was so excited for Cities: Skylines II, and it is a shell of the former game. So many systems seem to fake the economy, and it also feels impossible to make your city fail.

Waiting until I see evidence of a good game post-release before I board any kind of hype train.

Heh, that's what I felt about city skylines. Maybe that's just the game
- It was definitely possible to tank a city in Skylines 1. That said, it's also not the most challenging game.
  But with Skylines II, I can't even tank one when I try. Hundreds of thousands in the red? The game throws free money at you in the form of "government subsidies" to compensate. And they cannot be disabled. Absolute shit show.
I still haven't bought that, and looks like I won't be for a while at least, maybe never if it doesn't pan out. I was so excited for Victoria 3 but reading the reviews they indicate that it's also a shell of the former game. Waiting until the game is fully released before letting in any hype has served me well lately.
- Vic3 certainly isn't a shell of Vic2. It's a considerably more complex and interesting game.
  There are however some frustrating and obtuse mechanics, particularly related to warfare. It's not even that bad once you get into it properly, but as a new player it's definitely a bit frustrating and it's definitely different from what players were used to from Vic2.

Yeah, no thanks Paradox.

It's going to be interesting to see how well integrated the 3D and multi-story management is going to be.

I really liked the first game but I can’t say I’m confident that this will be too enjoyable, unfortunately.

Not sure whether to support this, after they just turned off servers of PA1.

Did they? I was actually going to try this game but I guess I can't now
- Well they stated that they didn't guarantee for server uptime anymore, but the last times we tried, it never was available.

Fingers crossed this is good - I love the gameplay of the first one but the graphics kind of put me off

A boring dystopia.

Yeah, what're these graphics and gameplay complaints when clearly the most objectionable thing about this is the concept?
- Exactly.

I liked the first one alright but I remember it being a bit easy, and putting it down for rim world, a much more challenging game in the same vein. Guess I'll wait and see on this one.

I think the artstyle is ok in a vacuum. It does look bad if you look at it as a direct sequel of prison architect 1. As for paradox, it would be a new low for them if they managed to fuck up the performance for this game by releasing it early, the only problem I can really see are bugs and they usually aren't gamebreaking (for the pdx games I've played at launch - c:s2 and vic3). I just hope it isn't treated as a cash grab by the higher ups. As long as they don't release it before it is ready the game will be fine, but we know paradox will crunch the developers to release early. I'm mainly just worried about the dlc.

Idk I think the new art style is good. They probably didn't want it looking like Rimworld anymore and wanted to have 3D for the verticality that was lacking in the original.
- Prison Architect predates Rimworld. Rimworld got shit for "copying" PA when it first came out.
  See the FAQ for the Rimworld Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tynansylvester/rimworld/description
  It looks a lot like Prison Architect. What's up with that?
  Blame my (Tynan's) lack of art skill - especially with characters. I made the character art you see in the trailer as a stopgap, and borrowed the Prison Architect style because I'm not a good enough artist to develop a new one. They were never intended to be final. With this Kickstarter, we'll be able to get a real artist who can sit down and develop an original style for RimWorld.
  I've talked with the original Prison Architect artist, Ryan Sumo, and he's fully supportive of RimWorld. We didn't share any art or code with the PA guys.
- That's what I was trying to say. It looks good if you don't view the new game as just "more prison architect 1" instead of an entire new game