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mughaloid @lemmygrad.ml

2y ago

It's like west took a big L in human history

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The commies are proven right every damn time. It's like we've got some sort of clairvoyance.
In the sense of being new information, this isn't news. Israel wanting to decimate the population of Gaza isn't news. There being US-backed nazis in the Ukraine wasn't news, nor was Zelesky beinga puppet who'd destroy his country, the US wanting war with Russia, there not being a genocide in Xinjiang, Iraq not having WMDs, Saddam not being behing 9/11 and so on and so on.
- It's not news to us but it is news to the majority of the population here in the West who for decades have not been exposed to anything other than the lies of the liberal imperialist propaganda apparatus.
  
  I am just wondering how western elite thought that Russia gaining all the Donbass, kherson and others would be beneficial for them. Lol 😂 . This ukraine thing is the biggest loss for the West and US
- what historical and dialectical materialism does to mfers
Ukraine gets goaded into conflict with Russia *
Ukraine: We're Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Ukraine loses 100,000 soldiers
Ukraine: We're Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Western powers shovel military hardware into Ukraine
Ukraine: We're Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
*Ukrainian politicians openly discuss Nazi talking points with Western politicians who feel the same way *
Ukraine: We're Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Ukraine loses half a million soldiers
Ukraine: We're Western, yes?
The west: *big thumbs up * Yes!
Western powers begin losing interest as the consequences of the war on them are getting untenable
Ukraine: desperately We're Western, yes?
The west: I'm sorry babe not tonight, I have a headache
- We're Western, yes?
  *big thumbs up * Yes!
  A very Latin American exchange!
Didn't Ukraine literally execute the peace negotiation people?
- yup https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reports-claim-negotiator-shot-for-treason-officials-say-he-died-in-intel-op/
  
  Is the Times of Israel a good source for this? Their sources are two tweets and a Facebook post along with the heavy use of the word “alleged”.
  
  jfc
Gotta wonder if we're going to be reading Op-Eds from Netanyahu heads in a few years.
Something about how the Israelis were ready to pull back, but they just kept getting green flags from Blinken and Biden to push further into Gaza territory.
- I believe US will be in utter chaos in next few years.
  
  I believe US will be in utter chaos in next few years.
  we must hope so
  
  Interesting. We shall see. I thought it would be 15-30 years, but, my hypnogogic moments have been plagued with an inescapable sense that the time was sooner than later. I heard the sound of angels the other day while on a walk...
"by something or someone"
Come on you cowards! Say the names! Boris Johnson on behalf of Emperor Joe
and then he got Toy Storied lmao
edit: what isn't a laughing matter though, is that now thousands to millions of working class people have to deal with possibly decades of landmine-ridden quagmire. great job you dumb fucks
Interesting that Arestovich thinks he will not be extradited, as he is living in the US. Sure, USA has some pull and sure, Ukraine is a bit busy at the moment, but he will get extradited, you can trust the USA as far as you can throw it
- He's an opportunist through and through, i'm sure he's hedged all his bets. Also there is a good chance he is still an asset of a certain faction in the US deep state. Not the one that controls Zelensky and is still all-in on continuing the war, but a rival faction that sees the bigger picture and is worried about the damage this quagmire is doing to the empire.
  
  I am just wondering what's the point of this war even. Trump Republicans don't want this war but certainly all dems are into it. Russia seems have no interest to move or they are just happy with the pace of war 🤣
  
  I see no option in which the guy would just go and openly said this. He was certainly moved by some agency hand in his ass.
unherd
oh for fucks sake, come on
- Not gonna happen. Seethe.
- Tried calling Putin, he didn't answer. Its almost as if I have zero influence on him
  After Stoltenberg and David Arakhamia admitted it, everybody has realized by now that Nato membership always was at the core of this conflict.
  So, no, there is not only one person who can end this war. Not even liberals should be dumb enough to believe that line to begin with.
  Assuming you don't live in a dream world: What exactly is the realistic goal you have that more bloodshed will achieve?
  If my fellow Western idiots had listened to us, Ukraine would have 20% more land and hundreds of thousands more people would be alive and Germanys tanking economy with military keynesianism knocking wouldn't be at risk of turning the 30s of the 21st century into the 30s of the 20th century
  You're playing a little game that you pretend is fueled by care for Ukrainians (- those in Donbas and leftists), whose country you could not point to on a map 3 years ago, but is actually fueled by a media-induced need to see Putin humiliated.
  This is the fucking real world where people aren't just flag-emojis and nuclear weapons aren't a boardgame that you can smugly flip over and where the "bad guys" aren't cackling in secret about doing evil but where real contexts are distorted for propagandistic purposes.
  Snap the fuck out of your infantile world view and start trying to understand war in order to prevent it or take the blue pill and accept that politics just isn't your cup of tea.
  There is too much at stake. We can never stop explaining but we can't parent people either
- Why would Russia pull back when they've already comprehensively defeated the NATO proxy?
- US will also be dead. Get over it. Lol. Russia and China is the future.
Anything short of russia leaving all the stolen land isn't favourable.
Russia will just take whatever agreement they have signed, rebuild, then spit all over that agreement and do whatever they can to benefit from the suffering of others. Their country doesn't even have to profit, just the elite.
- Just crawl back to your sewer already.
  
  Is that what russia wants sewers? Can't built their own because all the money going to the oligarchs, got to steal Ukraines.
- The land was stolen from the Ukranian people by the US Nazi puppet government. Russia liberating it is the next best thing.
- That sounds like an interesting and unique perspective I haven't heard before, can you cite examples of Russia doing this sort of thing in the past? I haven't heard of them breaking agreements like that, it sounds awful for a country to do things like that.
  
  Just start here and go from there.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories
- favourable for who? the losers from this conflict are the ukranian people, the goverment failing to reach a peace deal is literally terrorism against the ukranian people.

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