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  • In a dictionary a word can have more than one meaning and context matters.

    Precisely. Which is why you can make the case why the distinction is important to you, and why other people should care about and respect the more specific definition.

    But you didn't make that case. You took the position that there's exactly one valid definition and the other person was factually, self-evidently wrong, and needed not to be convinced but to be condescendingly corrected. That is not conducive to your goal of conveying your position, it doesn't represent the community position well to outsiders, and it rubs me the wrong way simply because it's self-absorbed and extremely rude. Hence my sarcastic initial reply.

    If you seek a discussion that others can meaningfully engage with, purely out of self-interest you need to be able to center other people's perspective, not talk down to them about how they could be so obviously wrong and stupid.

    Being perceived as less of a total ass is just a bonus.

  • You're completely missing the point. This isn't about a community no matter how much you'd prefer otherwise. This was a conversation in a public forum.

    The word "sceptic" has a generally understood meaning regardless of how the community feels about it, because the general public isn't paying attention to what the community wants.

    You can either change your mind or stick to your beliefs despite the evidence.

    How kind of you. Word of advice, don't resort to statements like this. It's transparent ego stroking that makes you sound like a self-centered asshole and doesn't help your argument in any way.

  • The community's use isn't the correct point of reference. It is also naturally biased, because the community seeks to avoid association with these people.

    It's not crazy or outlandish to label Harris or Dawkins as skeptics in the common use of the term. It's core to their branding whether you like it or not. That's what matters when you talk to people outside the community, not the insular definition you treat as objective fact.

    I don't even see a point in litigating this, other than the one I mentioned already. It was clear from context what they were talking about.

  • Just check out his other videos I guess. I think he can be quite funny, and this video isn't the best example. But he's built a lot of goodwill by other means with the blender community over the years, he didn't become popular as a comedian.

  • I dislike this saying because it's always been assumed, never proven, that intelligence follows a normal distribution. That is if it can even be mapped to a single, consistent, comparable number.

    But your point is valid. Though I'd add that it's not universally true. Fascists thrive on fear and ignorance. Give people access to a good education, which includes political education, and they are far more resilient to these tactics.

    Which is why it's especially nefarious that conservatives love to undermine, vilify, and defund education.

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  • I think they're generally just capable enough to not casually make enemies of each other, as they're both very influential people. They do speak the language of power and money.

    But also they are both egomaniacs that choose strange hills to die on. So I could see an ill-advised falling-out.

    Side note, I hate that as a society we're forced to waste any degree of attention on these thoroughly awful people.

  • This is an argument akin to "What do you mean I'm accused of fraud? All I really did was write my name on a piece of paper!"

    It requires deliberate ignorance of the context, and that's why people are unwilling to waste time explaining it to you in detail.

  • Oh absolutely. Gotta keep the plebs desperate and divided, while billions upon billions disappear into the most toxic and destructive industry there is right alongside fossil fuel corporations.

    They managed to keep military spending at an unprecedented level after the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the cold war, in an amazing feat of governmental capture and exploitation by arms industry lobbyists. But it wasn't enough, because it never is. Line must go up. The US has been seeking new reasons to funnel even more money their way ever since.

  • I mean a lot of US folks seem way more smug than actually upset about it. Bringing it up to derail the conversation whenever anyone mentions US imperialism or the one-sidedness of NATO policy, as if the US would ever accept, let alone desire a position as equal among equals.