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I can't reconcile those ideas.

Yeah, I'm not saying there's not legitimate cases for population control. It's the people and their hobby I have opinions about. Would it be weird for people to go hunt cats, pose by their corpses for pictures, etc., like is done with deer if it was because cats impact the environment when it comes to bird population? If not, why bother spaying and neutering instead of just killing?

Lol, up votes and down votes are pretty even for the post, but all the comments I'm making questioning people's excuses for why hunting is great, actually, are getting down voted. I can't tell if this is an unpopular opinion or not.

Yeah, deer do have a real impact on environments. Japan has an interesting relationship with them, too, that I learned about recently https://youtu.be/tYuGeqBVXFk

Vis a vis means something like "in relation to" and I was using the cognitive dissonance to mean the people who eat meat but don't like thinking about how it got there, not hunters. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I know it's hyperbole, but it takes more than ten minutes to get a license because you are have to go to the place that issues them or wait days if it's a mail thing. Relatively cheap is very different from not buying at all. So there's any amount of effort and output of money done in anticipation of the stalking/killing/eviscerating. It's not the relative cost compared to camping that's in question.

So you didn't get the irony?

Literally the appeal to tradition, an informal fallacy.

Omg, it was to avoid exactly this. Bad commenter. Where's my spray bottle?

Cognitive dissonance vis a vis actively gearing up, getting a license, and taking the time to hunt are different things and I only have an unpopular opinion on the latter.

It was more to preemptively stop the people that bring up that they do it for the purposes of consumption. Like you can consume meat without hunting and many people do and just deal with the cognitive dissonance of somebody else doing the killing. Actually going out to hunt is a much more active choice and not something you can do without getting gear, maybe a license, and making time for it.

As for taxidermy, I guess it's just an extension of the planning/killing/cleaning into even more thinking about it, remembering it, celebrating it. Otherwise, it's pretty goth and I've got no issue with it.

There were some Buddhists that wore masks to avoid breathing in insects and accumulating karma (though iirc most sects now say insects don't cause karma that way). But there were also Buddhists warriors that justified killing people as helping the dead get to their next reincarnation faster. But yeah, why do people think cats deserve better treatment than chickens or cows or deer. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

The most ironic use of that ever, lol. You get why it's ironic, right? That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, bud.

Cool, then don't self reflect at all. You don't seem like you're good at it anyway. After all, we were done a while ago according to you and you don't care about my opinion, so stop being weird and defending yourself. If you respond again, it means you do care about my opinion and you were wrong about being done.

You bring out a playground insult and call me weak? Dude, even if the chicken slaughter doesn't shame you, this should.

I'm saying you're arrogant and have a sense of moral superiority. I guess you didn't understand that, but you did say you didn't care about my opinion, so you doubled down on the arrogance and moral superiority. So like I said, you don't have a problem with arrogance, you just have a problem when it's not you doing it.

If you treat your chickens so well and feel so good about it, why did you put your killing them in the passive voice like it's something that just happens? Just say you chop their heads off or whatever. Don't hide it.

"Vegans are arrogant and abusive but let me tell you why I'm allowed to kill animals and am above reproach." Come on, you kettle, it's clearly not arrogance you have a problem with.

That's why there's the JADE acronym. You never justify, argue, defend, or explain. That makes them think there's a chance if they just counter every single thing you say.

they are talking about animal abuse

they push themselves into discussions of farming, hunting, fishing

So when vegans talk about abuse it deserves moderation but when non-vegans talk about killing, maiming, and eating animals that's totally cool, not abuse, and above reproach? One should have outsiders come in the the community to give their opinions but the other shouldn't? Come on, you're not really that bad at making a point, are you?

That's The Arm from Twin Peaks

Long form gaming videos like 8 hour review of Morrowind, 12 hour review of Oblivion, or 20 hour review of Skyrim.

There probably just sick of every thread, every damn thread, having people coming in and trying to debate. It's not a community for that and asking people to not do that is well within their rights. If somebody went into an anime community and kept saying live action is better, they should get banned. Doesn't mean that community is an echo chamber.

Hmm, at that point I think you're looking at stilts.