youarehurtingthefediverse @ youarehurtingthefediverse @lemmy.world

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petitioning to have an instance that isn’t yours shut down.

First, I am not talking about shutting the instance down, I talking about closing down registrations - at least until their stability issues are solved.

Second, do you understand that (to an outsider) what this instance is doing is akin to environmental pollution? Of course the petition will come from someone who is "not from here", because those are the ones that end up being affected by it!

The one thing Lemmy needs to survive long-term is more active users.

They don't need to be in the same instance

because if there’s one thing new users implicitly don’t understand, it’s how federation works.

Then we take that as an opportunity to educate them instead of tricking them out into believing that it is a good idea to put them all in the same server.

A decent portion of people who try to sign up and fail will just give up and go back to reddit

They will also go back to reddit if they join a server that is constantly having outages.

You know what else is an even worse user experience? When people are basically forced to assimilate with the Borg instead of being able to participate from their own side of things, through no fault of their own.

Stop comparing it to reddit. Reddit is a for-profit company with 2000 employees and a centralized system that can gives them the benefit of economies and efficiencies of scale.

The Fediverse is a decentralized system. Decentralized systems are not made to be efficient, they are made to be robust and resilient. The different nodes are meant to be doing more work overall, but that is okay because it means that even if one of the nodes is overloaded or faulty, the system as a whole continues to function.

The more you argue that we should even compare lemmy.world (or anyone else in the fediverse) with reddit, the more concerned I get that the mods and admins there don't get the point of decentralization.

• I did eliminate all the possibilities I had at hand.
• The only one that offered some hint at a solution was not related to this instance, and was not demanding to know my instance beforehand.
• The stated reason given to not close registrations fails any smell test.

perhaps negative repercussions for both this instance and Lemmy as a whole.

AKA, "we are too big to fail"?

I'm too old for internet drama and I think that if we want the fediverse to win we need to be a lot more mindful of the collective and avoid tribal thinking. But honestly, this shit with lemmy.world is starting to get a bit weird. I mean, the lemmy devs were recommending from the beginning to not have overly large instances, yet the admins here kept ignoring this and hoarding more people. What is the endgame?

I'm also here to expose bad excuses.

As for help, @Wander@yiffit.net has pointed me to the right direction, and he didn't need to know my instance to do so...

Ok, you might be on to something. The updated value is set to 2023-06-11. Should I force this value to be recent?

My instance is not meant to be "popular". It's just for me and some friends, it's federating just fine, I can receive all the posts but whatever I write does not get here.

If people land here and are not able to register they might not look into it further and give up because

Sorry, that's a really bad excuse. Lemmy allows to have custom messages/taglines on the registration page, why not just add a quick paragraph saying "registration is closed because this server is overwhelmed, but here is a list of servers that you can use".

Make it a rotating list, change it every 2-3 days if you want.

As for why I am not naming my instance: this post went to -1 as soon as it got posted. My comments are also being downvoted quite quickly. I don't believe that I am being rude or uncivil, yet it feels like mods and admins are more worried about fighting to keep the status quo than helping the community at large, and I'd worry about retaliation.

Why is it so vital for you to keep registrations open? Can you please help me understand the logic behind it?