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In all the numerous studies have been done over many decades that you could've easily googled. In fact, I even linked many of them here because unlike some people I actually source my claims.

• https://lemmy.ml/post/31985765/19378486
• https://lemmy.ml/post/31985765/19374523

Democracy means a government that serves the majority, and answers to them. Its most important measure lies the steady rise in people’s living standards. But perception matters too, do citizens believe their government works for them?

In the West, most don’t. And why would they? They watch their livelihoods shrink while oligarchs, the real rulers of capitalist regimes, gorge themselves on the exploitation of the working class. In China, people call their system democratic, because it is. They’ve witnessed the fastest improvement in living standards in human history. That’s not just democracy in theory. It’s democracy in practice.

in fact there are studies showing this empirically

What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

Nah I get that you think people should take your drivel seriously. You must spend a lot of time sniffing your own farts when you're not making a clown of yourself in public.

Even a chatbot could come up with a more coherent reply than that. 🤣

Being actually informed on the subject is precisely how I know that you are completely and utterly full of shit.

When you make bombastic claims, get called out on your bullshit, but then keep doubling down on it. Your dedication to the art of trolling is admirable.

And that's why you're unable to provide a single example. 🤡

The liberal worldview rests on a theological conviction that liberalism represents the pinnacle of governance, inherently destined to yield the best possible results. This article of faith, treated as self-evident truth, then dictates that any non-liberal system is, by definition, repressive and inferior. It's a conclusion that requires no further examination.

in other words, it's an org that cannot possibly be accused of having a pro Chinese bias

Unironically correct. What's there to complain about?

90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes

Chinese household savings hit another record high in 2024 https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-jones-bank-earnings-01-12-2024/card/chinese-household-savings-hit-another-record-high-xqyky00IsIe357rtJb4j

People in China enjoy high levels of social mobility https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html

The typical Chinese adult is now richer than the typical European adult https://www.businessinsider.com/typical-chinese-adult-now-richer-than-europeans-wealth-report-finds-2022-9

Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it's the most populous country on the planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8SvK0E5dI

The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf

From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China%E2%80%99s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4

From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&amp%3Blocations=CN&amp%3Bstart=2008

By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/asia/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty. https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

None of these things happen in capitalist states, and we can make a direct comparison with India which follows capitalist path of development. In fact, without China there practically would be no poverty reduction happening in the world.

If we take just one country, China, out of the global poverty equation, then even under the $1.90 poverty standard we find that the extreme poverty headcount is the exact same as it was in 1981.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/07/5-myths-about-global-poverty

The $1.90/day (2011 PPP) line is not an adequate or in any way satisfactory level of consumption; it is explicitly an extreme measure. Some analysts suggest that around $7.40/day is the minimum necessary to achieve good nutrition and normal life expectancy, while others propose we use the US poverty line, which is $15.

https://www.cgdev.org/blog/12-things-we-can-agree-about-global-poverty

Freedom of expression only matters when it translates into real-world action. Otherwise, it’s just a jester’s privilege, the freedom to scream into the void. In China, people enjoy genuine freedom to advance their material interests, reflected in their consistently rising standard of living and an economy that serves the majority. Meanwhile, the West claims abstract 'freedoms' while living standards crumble and working people are stripped of political power.

I predict that they will keep extending it until the US collapses.

that is a big part of it to be sure

basically this https://elpidio.org/2018/02/12/citigroups-plutonomy-memo-there-are-rich-consumers-and-there-are-the-rest/

indeed

Clearly they think Russians are dumb enough to fall for Minsk 3 here.

Russia has had a consistent position that they only see a ceasefire happening as a result of negotiations which Ukraine abandoned.

stay mad

You're right, Burgerland is an economic joke that's becoming economically isolated globally.