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Life expectancy of football players is 59 years. Life expectancy for average, fast food-eating, healthcare-using Americans is 79 years.

I'll take the latter, thanks.

So you can link to the apology then, right? And can you explain the pictures of dead babies and children that were circulating immediately after the attack?

You know damn well you're lying.

What makes you think I don't care? I'm just saying your initial metaphor was bullshit, and should've been more like "somebody murders your wife & kids, so you put a bomb in his apartment, hoping to kill him while accepting that other people will die too" or something. Nobody's hands are clean here, Hamas very deliberately massacred civilians and only civilians, and posted videos bragging about it.

Rememeber that time they trained it on 4chan and it became… a Nazi?

First, you're talking about a totally different AI, right? Second....if 4chan made a version of Wikipedia, it would be full of Nazi facts. So therefore...don't trust Wikipedia? Or just don't trust Wikipedia created by 4chan?

Garbage in, garbage out.

“Making shit up” is how it functions, all the time. It has zero understanding of what it says.

You could say the same about us. We pull from our memories and say stuff, and we don't know if what we're saying is true.

If you want to show that ChatGPT is a terrible place to try to learn anything (even at a starting point, which is all I suggested), you should show some examples of where it's badly wrong or terribly biased, not ask it a question about bias and then quote it, saying "See? It's completely right!"

I'll point out, too, that saying "you can't trust it at all, because of the way it works!" is exactly what people said about Wikipedia for the first decade or more: "any random asshole can edit it at any time, you can't trust that!" But when they finally did a full analysis, it turned out that despite the fact that it didn't feel to traditionalists like it should work, it was actually more accurate than traditional encyclopedias (and like 100x larger at the same time).

Just because it seems unintuitive to you, doesn't mean it's necessarily bad.

What the hell are you talking about? Where was that 'proved'? Where have you seen stats on ratio of civilians to combatants killed by Israel?

It's much better at putting together prose than 'thinking' logically. I'm always surprised how good it is at code, but I guess they worked on that.

But I did a fair bit of traveling recently, and I was really impressed at how well it could summarize the highlights of a place, or the history. And when asked, it could go into plenty of detail. I only remember one or two outright errors, and most humans couldn't beat that.

I wouldn't try to make a product out of it, but if you keep in mind what it is and you're wary, it's a great way to get started (very much like Wikipedia).

Hamas literally started this conflict by massacring college kids and babies.

Hate to tell you this, but war has always been like this. Israel is at least attempting to target combatants, and causing a ton of collateral damage in the process. When Hamas attacked, the civilian casualties weren't collateral--they were the whole point.

It's not awful advice. It's better, for example, than asking pretty much any single person, since they'll also be biased and make mistakes.

It's a good way to get started on a topic, just know that it can sometimes make shit up--especially when you get into the weeds (i.e. stuff for which there isn't a lot of content on the internet to draw from).

They did save millions of lives, though, and allowed us to stop the constant quarantines months or even years early, whatever their motivations (and I'm not as cynical about that as you).

Meanwhile, all the Internet smartasses who love to criticize the drug industry non-stop did exactly jack shit.

Much of the research happened long before COVID--at a loss. There's a reason this miraculous new mDNA vaccine technology appeared out of nowhere just in time for the pandemic: researchers had been working on it for years already, using investments and borrowed money. Government grants just went to finishing the vaccine and scaling up so quickly it was kinda mindboggling. They didn't just get to stuff the cash in their pockets.

I know you are, but what am I?

(Just trying to keep pace with the level of discourse here).

This is true. For example, a musician could wave a banner saying " lives don't matter!"

Fuck the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei of Germany, circa 1920-45. Fuck the American Nazi Party. Fuck neo-nazis. Fuck Trump, for that matter, though for all his very obvious flaws, he's not a Nazi. FWIW, I was warning people in 2015 that Trump had all kinds of fascist energy.

But I mean, if you look up-thread, now I'm a Nazi. That's the problem. People use 'Nazi' the way Nazis used 'vermin' or 'parasite': the worst word they could think of to slap on their enemies, in order to dismiss everything they say. To dehumanize their opponents.

Add two and two together, and in this thread people have said my life doesn't matter. Why? Because I said I didn't like this stupid patronizing banner. And I worry about the day when people really do that math--the way they did on the Right during the Trump years, and started killing churches full of black people.

These people think they're sooo different. They're just potential fascists with a different flag.

Yup! And I stand by that. Israel has committed many war crimes in Gaza, but by no definition of 'genocide' are they committing genocide. They are not killing Palestinians in any systematic way with the intent of killing all of them, nor are they trying to eliminate their language or culture.

What the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs could be termed 'genocide', as could the attempts to 'educate' Native Americans in the US, because they were deliberate attempts to destroy a culture.

But Israel isn't doing that. They're neither killing en masse or teaching Palestinians children Hebrew.

Are they oppressing the Palestinians? Subjugating? Terrorizing? Very likely! You could easily make the case.

But commiting genocide? Nope.

There you go. I'm not in the circlejerk, so I'm a Nazi. Absolutely par for the course.

God, Lemmy is stupid. Bunch of fucking children.

Yo! That's me. I downvoted this. It's a childish and simplistic message, pandering to it's audience.

And the question once you've agreed "we should kill nazis!" is, who's a nazi? Are you talking about actual, card-carrying members of the Nazi party--all 30 of them or whatever? Or are you talking about, like, nazis, man! Cuz you could easily be called a nazi for supporting Israel in that conflict: Israel is acting like fascists, and totally committing a genocide! You could also be a nazi for supporting Palestine: they're antisemitic as fuck, and genocide is literally their party platform! You could be called a nazi for supporting either side of Russia/Ukraine, too. Clearly the Republicans are nazis, amirite? But wait no, 'Nazi' stands for 'National Socialists' so actually the left-wing dems are real nazis!

I've heard the world 'nazi' (and 'fascist') so fucking much in the last decade that I'm fucking sick of it, so "kill nazis!" is a meaningless statement, intended to make the reader feel smug and self-righteous, and nothing else. Fucking pandering.

Also, Tom Morello (gifted tho he is) left a bad taste in my mouth with this bullshit.

In English, lack of second-person plural, aside from a dozen regionalisms: y'all, yinz, youse, etc.

No distinction between inclusive & exclusive 'we': if I say "we've got to go now", do I expect you to come?

Unnecessarily generated pronouns. I know 'they/them' has been used for individuals for ages, but I still find it awkward. I wish we just used one set of ungendered pronouns for every specific person.

The Israelis are not committing genocide, by any definition. They're certainly not conducting an organized mass killing of Palestinians--the Palestinian population is one of the fastest-growing populations in the world. They're not trying to deprive them of language or culture. They're just containing them--which might be a crime, but it's not genocide.

So you’re actually making a racist statement, and then ascribing a racist motive to the people that aren’t even making that racist statement.

They're cosigning Hamas. You think Hamas is above racism?

Anyway, I was just inventing a scenario in which a company might not want to hire these people. For the record, I don't believe that either the Israelis or Palestinians are evil, or should be massacred, or that every Jew supports the right-wing Israeli government or that every Palestinian supports Hamas. But Hamas does believe it, and has said so explicitly, and by calling them brave and justified freedom fighters you're kinda taking their side.

So why can’t you also condemn Israel for killing 2800 civilians non-combatants–including at least 800 children–in Gaza so far?

Who says I can't? Allow me to quote myself:

Same goes for law students who are too enthusiastic about Israel’s violent response, nobody has to hire them either.

The situation is fucked up, and I think Hamas shares a lot of the blame for the civilian casualties since they're deliberately using the civilians as a shield. But I have no problem criticizing Israel. It just wasn't relevant to this discussion.

It just drives me fucking crazy that people think they are entitled to be hired by a company, regardless of what they've said in the past. And a key word there is "they". I strongly suspect the Venn diagram of people who are currently saying "Oh my God, Davis Polk can't do this, it's an assault on free speech!" and the people who were 100% on board with Trump supporters, antivaxxers, or people throwing racial slurs while walking their dog in the park losing their jobs is pretty much a circle. Remember "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences!"?

They were right then, however annoyingly smug they were about it, and they're right now. You can say whatever you want, but not everybody is going to like it, and they are not obliged to hire you.

Lol, are you okay?

I'm not saying all/most lawyers are Jewish, I'm saying there are Jewish lawyers (and clients). I'm also not saying the Jews are responsible for genocide, I'm saying that's what the law students were saying.

This is one law firm rejecting a bunch of students that made a wild and controversial statement. There are lots of reasons why the firm might have done that. This is one example. I do not agree with the students.

Is that clear?

Just so it's clear for everybody: Nix is a programming language, build system, and package manager. NixOS is a Linux distro built with (and upon) Nix. Home Manager is a dotfile and home management tool using Nix, allowing control of dotfiles, but also per-user software, systemd services, and more. You can use Home Manager in any distro, not just NixOS (but you do need to install Nix).

Yeah, I read a breakdown of governance is Gaza, and it was honestly bewildering: Hamas has a few different wings for civilian and military governance, and then there's the Palestinian Authority which plays some kind of role, and a Hezbollah influence... It's a fucking mess, and it's a shame. But honestly: there's nobody in a position to help the Palestinians to pick more reasonable leaders, except possibly Iran or the Saudis exerting influence, which they're not inclined to do, because to them the Palestinians are just a piece on a chessboard.

Honestly it might help the Palestinians (though not Hamas) if Israel and Saudi Arabia normalized relationships, if only because they'd be a less useful chess piece.

Yeah, was that not clear? It's not a dog whistle, I'm deliberately giving an example of a plausible scenario where a law firm might not want to hire someone who was saying "I sure do admire the Palestinian people and Hamas, with their goal of eradicating all the Jews of the Middle East! After all, the Jews brought this on themselves!"

The lawyers might be Jewish, or they might have Jewish partners, or they might have Jewish clients, or they might not be Jewish but still be against random terrorist massacres of civilians.