yianiris @ yianiris @kafeneio.social

linux no-systemd minimalism

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I had a brief opportunity to play around with an AT&T workstation running unix, more like a 386 than any sun/sgi machine that costed as 2 new sportscars. It had a very brief life, despite of the quality of the box, it was pretty useless. Slow as hell windows 95 would run circles around it.

Then out comes DEC/Alpha with Dec's unix, was it ultrix? And in those machines later windows NT was also ported, so it was a testbed between the two worlds. Then RHat CDs rained on us
@jollyrogue @eah

Because some developers act on their own consciousness and don't have a slavemaster corporate manager telling them what they need to do or not do.

When one doesn't like any of the available choices yet a new one is born. Can you measure how many v.terminals we have, or how many window managers on X11?

@Unsafe @mmstick

That is a strict position some have, but I didn't say this. Editing /etc/sudoers and giving sudo or wheel group users a no-passwd access is insecure.

sudo chmod 1777 /tmp

will not ask you for
passwd, it is like bypassing sudo

If you open sudoers you will see what I'm saying. In debiuntu it is sudo group in arch/void ... it is wheel group

@PrivateNoob

That's 23s of your life wasted, but how would you set it?
NOPASSWD?

That's not secure by most experts, people do it as convenience, but say rogue code was run by user and sudo was open, ... done your system belongs to someone else now.

@NotATurtle @PrivateNoob

How can a system that wasn't broken, without any changes/updates/upgrades ever break?

Its browser maybe will not be able to display some webpages correctly.

This myth/fear that arch breaks is based on ignorance and people who don't read output during an upgrade, it otherwise never happens.

AMD gpu vs Nvidia .. 1-0
Intel gpu boots without linux-firmware pkgs.
Nvidia, old and new, you get what you deserve.

@KrispeeIguana @Pantherina

On reddit a few days ago on r/archlinux there was a discussion about ricing being a racist term or not.

@Therealmglitch

I hope you are kidding, trolling, as those things, plus audio/video editing, started fron unix when it wasn't conceivable to do so on PCs with proprietary OS. All those corporations who later sold such sw copied/stole FOSS and dressed it up as their own.

No team or corporation can ever ever catch up to FOSS development. It is a neo-liberal fallacy that promotes them on marketing hype.

@adeoxymus @aldalire

Try antiX, void lxde, obarun jwm, see the difference.

@lazynooblet @idiocracy

I never use one, useless fluff/hype, I use a wm.

Near double the size and resources for having a dock/bar/menu and pinning icons on the background .. too much clutter for things hiding behind whatever you are doing most of the time.

A desktop is something you use to impress someone using mac/msWin ...

@Fizz @Therealmglitch

Many people browse 4-5 pages a day, see a few emails, print a few pdfs, and a core2duo, or x4, for 40#/$/Eu a box run flawlessly with linux and xfce/lxde for example.
Even video-conferencing works fine.

Why not?

@ICastFist @db2

The base assumption here is you trust corporations such as IBM, Google, MS, and only consider security threats from minor individual actors.

There is no secure way to run any gecko/chrome based app if you don't trust google.

@Genghis @Pantherina

Any kid? Do I have to prove age? I'll install for a 1kg of basmati, or 3kg of potatos, 2kg of beans, 5kg of onions, or anything similar.

@mojo @nayminlwin

In my mariner background they say "it is not the size of the boat but the way it cuts through the water"

@cygnus @01adrianrdgz

It makes a difference, especially when trying to setup via chroot, it is possible but much harder to setup efi from a bios booted system.
@Hiro8811

systemd doesn't like booting with ro, too dumb to check then mount filesystems.

@Nibodhika @Hiro8811

@Hiro8811

1 Did you boot the live medium with bios or efi?

2 Do you have libnvme and nvme-cli installed? If no, try them, if yes look up things on the manuals. It may be that your bootloader can't read/mount from the nvme

3 Ever since systemd-boot appeared things have been not working so well, now, have they?

@Scyther @hellvolution

Debian GNOME uses Wayland by default

IBM IBM IBM IBM by default ...?

@redcalcium @Jezebelley

I can make my openbox look like i3 with ceramic tiles all over :)

@danielfgom @redimk

They are all decorative flavors of the same system, IBM's systemd "Inside".

@hellvolution

I like the idea behind arch and pacman, but I'm trying to stay clear of large corporate dominating systems (systemd, qt, zstd, etc.) I try to use as many alternatives as I can, keep the unix ideals up, small, specific, contained, doing one thing only instead of being system layers trying to contol everything. ProChoice :)