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Because those laptops suck.

Thinkpads are good and cheap. If someone has a bunch of money to spend on a computer they buy a Mac.

A holosun aimpoint mashup brings to mind automatic1111 versions of guns.

Eh, none of this is really addressing the fundamentals of getting comfortable figuring out how to do what you wanna do, which is what in my experience leads to people seeing command line use as magic incantations.

Like, if you’re on windows you know how to figure out how to do what you wanna do, right click a file, look for entries in the context menu, look at the properties, open with, etc.

This works because people fundamentally understand the metaphor behind the operating system.

If you’re in bash and don’t know how to do what you wanna do you don’t need any of this fancy zoomer shit, just use “which”, “man”, whatever your package manager offers and the other commands that had big oriley books written about em.

People need to develop the command line equivalent of the “click around and see if you learn anything” skills.

E: I gave the linked article another read and it really is about setting up a production environment in the command line and not about getting people comfortable with the command line at all.

Like, if someone needs to cut down a tree in their front yard they don’t need to know how to operate a felller-buncher, they need to know how to use an axe handle to judge where the tree will fall and what it will fall on.

That person says they were on world and switched to ee. They also say they were driven back to Reddit by hexbear. World preemptively defederated hexbear before any user interactions happened and ee and hexbear were federated for a day before this thread.

So one day of hexbear on ee drove this poster back to Reddit. Or they’re lying about the experience on world.

I want to understand what you meant. Ive refined my question to be as straightforward and clear as possible over our entire conversation.

If you think you’re being trolled then just don’t respond. Look away. Do something else.

If you are willing to have a conversation based on the thread topic:

I’d like to know what you meant by

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts

The context is users blaming the us for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan, and surmised you meant that the claim that the United States is responsible for opium production during the occupation of Afghanistan isn’t supported by the facts.

Was that a wrong assessment? If so, what blame being placed on the us isn’t supported by the facts?

I’m not trolling. I haven’t insulted or accused you of anything and I’ve tried my level best to treat you with the kindness of Christ and patience of Job.

I’d like to know what you meant by

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts

I took a look at the context, which was users blaming the us for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan, and surmised you meant that the claim that the United States is responsible for opium production during the occupation of Afghanistan isn’t supported by the facts.

Was that a wrong assessment? If so, what blame being placed on the us isn’t supported by the facts?

So let me summarize:

You won’t tell me what I’ve lied about. You won’t clarify your position. You won’t confirm or deny what statements of fact you accept. You won’t accept the other posters in this thread as people (???).

You asked why you should engage in this discussion any further. I don’t believe you should. You seem to have nothing to say even when asked clear, direct questions intended to give you a platform to speak. There is no discussion here.

If, on the other hand, you do want to keep going (you do not have to. You can just not respond. No one will judge you.):

Based on your statement

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts

Which was made in the context of other users blaming the United States for production of opium during the occupation of Afghanistan, I surmised you meant that the claim that the United States is responsible for opium production during the occupation of Afghanistan isn’t supported by the facts.

Was I wrong in that? If so, what blame being placed on the us isn’t supported by the facts?

Here I go repeating myself again:

You, in this post:

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts.

The thing people are blaming the us for is increased opium production under the occupation of Afghanistan.

So are you suggesting that the claim that the United States is responsible for opium production during the occupation of Afghanistan isn’t supported by the facts?

So you’re not going to explain how you came to the conclusion that the us occupation government in Afghanistan wasn’t responsible for opium production while it was in power and you’re also not gonna provide any source for the facts that led you to that conclusion?

You said there were zero facts to support blaming the us for production during the occupation, so does that mean that the production didn’t happen or it wasn’t the occupation governments fault?

There’s no wrong answer here. I’m not gonna send the stasi to break down your door for being a lib, I just want to understand how someone who clearly values logic and rhetoric came to that conclusion.

Lol believe me, the only thing I’ve gotten or expect to get from this interaction is a headache.

I’m not using any strawmen or rhetorical traps (what even is that?) or twisting your words. If you feel attacked just tap out, there’s nothing to win or lose and a conversation on the internet isn’t worth getting heated over.

What you said and I quoted a couple of times way earlier implies you don’t think the us was responsible for opium production during the occupation and I want to understand your viewpoint. Do you think the us was responsible for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?

Quick response!

Would you say that the United States is responsible for governing industrial and agricultural output during its occupation?

had someone actually made such a suggestion, that would be interesting. when and where did that happen?

Allow me to repeat myself:

You, in this post:

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts.

So, how’d you come to the conclusion that the us isn’t to blame for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?

Suggesting someone needs to twist themselves up in knots to blame the us for opium production during the occupation implies that the United States isn’t clearly responsible for opium production during the occupation.

Unless theres another reason someone would have to twist themselves up in knots to get there, of course.

That’s a conclusion. Now I’m not trying to get a gotcha or own or something here. I understand that sometimes when you get to talkin about something you might say things you don’t mean to. My question is how’d you get there?

You, in this post:

twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts.

So what conclusion do the facts support if not that the us is to blame for opium production during the occupation?

You said American blame for poppy production during the occupation isn’t supported by the facts.

I restated those facts and asked what conclusion they do support.

So did the occupation increase opium production on purpose or just turn a blind eye to it?

Before 9/11 they had banned poppy cultivation. After America leaves, they ban poppy cultivation. During the occupation, lots of poppies are cultivated and processed into opium.

America consumes 80% of the world opium supply on average.

What conclusion do these facts support?

Lol

They’re not my users, they’re our users, comrade.

I never spoke with you or knew about your existence before reading this thread.

You posted that video unprompted as a top level comment on this thread, not in response to someone asking you for something.

What user do you think I am?