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  • Nobody, child or otherwise, can scream for two hours straight comfortably. If a child is crying for that long unabated, there's a bloody reason. Yes, you see children plop to the floor without breaking a femur all the time, and the sound of a femur breaking is absent in those times.

    I know that education is underfunded, special education especially so. Probably more than doubly. I know that good people are ground down and out by the system when all they wanted to do was help kids learn. And I have also witnessed childcare staff more interested in their nails than the welfare of the children they're supposedly responsible for.

    Look, I'm not as emotional about this coming back after a few days and I might have just blocked that other guy because I couldn't deal with the frustration on top of the nausea I was fighting at the time. I understand where you're coming from. You're fighty because you're defending the good people you've seen beaten up and down by the terrible system we have in place, and I'm fighty because I'm defending little me who was frequently ignored for hours by my alleged guardians because I couldn't communicate what was wrong and they - what, didn't know how to troubleshoot? Call the doctor? 🤷‍♀️

    So I understand why so many are coming to the defense of the staff, but I vehemently disagree. Those staff were still responsible for the welfare of all those children, this little boy included, and they failed him. But I want to be clear: I don't believe in executing your generals just 'cause they lose a battle. Holding someone accountable doesn't mean pillorying them in the public square. There is one defense, which doesn't absolve them of anything but it is a defense: taking from it how to stop it from happening again. I have a lot more sympathy for people who care to learn from their mistakes.

    Anyway, I appreciate you taking the time to read this. I am very good friends with a lot of teachers, and they all stress about not being able to provide help to one of their students needing it. But not one of them would leave a child crying on the floor for two hours without having checked for injuries or called for help, long before that time was up.

  • For anyone wondering, this is what those staff ignored for two hours (WARNING: this may well trigger you, it sure as fuck ruined my day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx4in4UpdWE

    This video is 43 seconds long. You hear that sound out of a little kid's leg, followed by the screaming for two hours, and don't immediately call the ambulance, you're not a reasonable adult. You're an inhuman monster. Anyone saying "well maybe they thought he was just acting out" is ignoring the basic facts of the case so they can be contrary on the Internet.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx4in4UpdWE

    This is the sound of a femur breaking. This video is 43 seconds. They ignored this for two hours.

    No culture normalises ignoring this and when it happens children die and the parents or guardians are held accountable.

    I'm done with this nonsense. That video made me feel sick, fuck you for arguing so strenuously in favour of understanding for the staff that just let this kid lay there like this. Really, fuck you. You ruined my whole morning with your inhuman bullshit.

  • Okay. Find me a human being who won't scream for hours when you snap their femur.

    The femur is the thickest and largest bone in the body. When it snaps, everyone around you knows. Every breath a scream.

    Now, please defend ignoring a child screaming at the top of their lungs with every breath for two hours by saying something more about personalities and wanting attention.

  • What a load of wank. "Error in judgement"? What about their training, I thought they weren't supposed to use judgement? /s

    Little child, broken femur, two hours; that's all we need to know. Come up with any hypothetical as to how this happened, and the answer is that it was the responsibility of staff and facility to have it in hand. They failed in that responsibility, staff and facility both. I'm only interested in the "why" and "how" in order to figure out how to prevent this happening again.

  • I see it. And this:

    Well, I think it's fairly obvious this passed the line between protocol and neglect

    So if you agree this crosses the line into neglect pretty clearly, what are you even trying to say about protocol?

    From your latest reply to them:

    the school staff were probably trying to follow poor, outdated training principles that did not apply to their actual situation, instead of acting with outright malice

    I never said anything about malice, and how is that relevant anyway? If it were malicious I would hope the police would be involved. What I said was, this is criminal neglect, and there's no protocol in the world that calls to handle this situation this way.

    If this had been at home instead of a facility, with the parents ignoring the crying child, CPS would take the kid and the parents might well face charges. Again, two hours. And may I point out, this is a broken femur. That kid wasn't whimpering. He was screaming himself hoarse.

  • Sorry if I hit a nerve.

    There is no fucking protocol that says Sounds an awful lot like expertise of every protocol in every school to me. It's not easy to know for sure that some random school in Virginia absolutely does not have any sort of planned ignoring protocol.

    It blows my mind that you do not see how saying "expertise in every protocol in every school" strongly implies that this knowledge is necessary to voice an informed opinion on the matter. I don't need to know every protocol in existence everywhere to know you don't leave a kid to cry on the floor for two hours. It's the same as how I don't have a pilot's license, but if I see a plane in a tree, I know that someone fucked up. There is no defending this and I really don't understand why you're trying to.

  • There is no protocol that says to leave a child, nonverbal or otherwise, crying in pain for two hours. The length of time is extremely important context and takes it from "ooh what do I do" which is maybe the first fifteen minutes tops, to criminal neglect.

    Sorry if I hit a nerve

    Yeah you only implied this person doesn't know how to take care of their own kids and that your armchair Internet experience is at least as valid as their lived experience 🙄

  • That's a little hard to parse, but if you're asking "What guarantees the FDIC has the money to pay back Americans who lose their savings because of a bank collapse?": The FDIC does. From https://www.fdic.gov/about/what-we-do:

    The FDIC receives no Congressional appropriations - it is funded by premiums that banks and savings associations pay for deposit insurance coverage. The FDIC insures trillions of dollars of deposits in U.S. banks and thrifts - deposits in virtually every bank and savings association in the country.

    FDIC insurance is a selling point for many retail banking products (like checking and savings accounts), so those institutions pay for the insurance so people will have confidence to bank there. More importantly, they buy it because it's required by law currently.

    If the FDIC were abolished, the void would be filled by unregulated entities that would charge higher premiums and cover less, and there would probably be kickbacks involved - while the government watches with its popcorn - to disincentivise real free market competition.

    That's if there were any kind of deposit insurance at all, I mean. The idea might be to encourage the American people to put their savings into a form they can retain control over - like precious metals, land, or digital currencies.

  • Remember that scene at the beginning of It’s a Wonderful Life, where people are all desperately trying to get into the bank because if it fails before they get in, they lose their money? That’s what the FDIC prevents.

    Yeah. FDIC insurance is the only reason each of us will be left with up to 100k 250k per bank account, if our banks go under. And most of us have less than 100k in savings, so it's basically the US government saying

    Don't worry, even if shit hits the fan, you will still have your money.

    I can't even be bothered to hear how his minions are going to defend this one. It's indefensible.

  • Making a lot of assumptions here that our models are accurate enough to correctly predict the end of the universe - whether it's a big crunch, big rip, heat death, some clumsy git dropping the marble so it shatters, or something else entirely. I would take eternal life+youth so I could find out.

    Once I know everything, then I might get bored.

  • That is honestly a pretty incredible outcome. Cannabinoids only help me control my anxiety, they've never gotten rid of it like that. I know what you mean though, I have been hypomanic and feel strongly that I wouldn't have taken the plunge with my first business without that.

    It doesn't change that it was mental illness though, and I'm better off not being that way. I think you're probably better off without your anxiety. You talk about pursuing success; a lot of people - mostly in their 30s and up I'll admit - would class "being able to sit with a beverage and enjoy life regardless of income" as the definition of success.

    On the other hand, is your anxiety really gone? Or is it still there, as part of why you procrastinate? If your panic coping mechanism is gone and can't compensate for procrastination anymore, maybe it's time to try and figure out why you procrastinate instead of just doing the thing and then getting back to your beverage and chair?

  • I'm not rewarding your clickbait bullshit on such a contentious topic, Account That Is Only A Week Old. Summarise the points in the video, say what you found interesting/agree/disagree with, whatever, but contribute something instead of just leaving this steaming pile here for everyone else to step over.

  • Lol well I took exception to slop but this is all human shit :p while ai allowed me to generate it in like 3 minutes the idea was mine (and apparently a few other people's as well, I saw some others on the New feed), and I don't need ai to help me think of shitpost ideas - just to bring them to life in full technicolour glory, and with less effort than mouse-drawing in MSPaint.

    Also, I do think it adds a certain dimension of shittiness to do it so carelessly, but that might be too abstract for a shitpost