volodya_ilich @ volodya_ilich @lemm.ee

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Not being able to verify = there is no shown proof

Healthy dose of Bolshevism

I'm fairly confident the country I was born into will be dead and gone

I do feel bad for the american citizens suffering the consequences, but the US Empire falling is a net positive for the rest of the world. Ask people from Palestine, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, who suffered the US hegemony

then we again fucked that up.

The masses here are beyond stupid

European here. The fault is rarely ever in the masses. The oligarchs you're trying to fight against control the media and the narrative, it's extremely hard to win against that. Furthermore, wasn't Bernie chosen by popular support and then kicked out by DNC?

If the USSR couldn't defeat a bunch of peasants

What historical event are you referring to?

If the EU is smart — and not a bunch of capitalist oligarchies masquerading as "democracies" —

Finally it's dawning on the average western progressive

the US government is absolutely hostile

Ukraine should join NATO

Huh?

Agreed. Would you also agreed to the complete collapse of the genocidal empire of the USA?

now

Michael Parenti was saying this in the 70s and 80s though

Many of these countries didn't "gain" their independence from "Russia", they were GRANTED independence by the Bolsheviks immediately after the November revolution. Really, look at Wikipedia's article on the independence of Finland. The first constitution of the Russian Socialist Federation of Soviet Republics clearly specified the right to unilateral secession and independence for all nations of the former Russian Empire.

Regardless of my or your opinions on the independence of these countries, you didn't answer the question: what was the alternative to Soviet military occupation for the Baltics and Poland? Tell us, what was the realistic alternative?

The news source points to a UN report which it links. If you open the UN report, it says:

"A data collection system maintained by the Government of Ukraine indicated that 16,221 children had been deported to the Russian Federation as of the end of February 2023. The Commission has not been able to verify these figures."

I'm sorry, but there aren't investigative journalism or independent sources evidencing widespread deportation of children, best they can point to is 200 documented cases and the Ukrainian government figures.

the number of civilian deaths

I specifically talked about ratios and not about absolute numbers. Ukraine has an order of magnitude more people than Palestine, it would be surprising if there weren't more casualties overall.

Hamas does not wear uniforms, and actively prevents civilians from evacuating from areas where there's combat operations

OK, Zionist and genocide apologist.

The source of this information isn't investigative journalism, it's claims from the Ukrainian government (as stated inside the article), which is famously known to be at war with the country it's accusing of war crimes. Russian government sources claim that Ukrainians were performing ethnic cleansing of Russian Ukrainians before the invasion and they're saving them from genocide, should we take that at face value too?

So it's reductive to talk about imperialist wars, but not about "Russia want territory, Ukraine rightful defense"? Wanna talk sovereignty and democracy? We could start way back with Euromaidan. Funny how spontaneous and disorganised protests outside US-influence end up with pro-US regime changes, whereas huge protests movements lasting years such as the Occupy movement in the US, the Gilets Jeunes in France or the 15-M in Spain end up in nothing. I guess we don't question democracy and sovereignty in these instances now, do we? No complex analysis to be had there

Not really what I think the end goal is. The invasion of Ukraine is a military response to the lack of soft power of Russia to maintaining a sphere of influence otherwise, through diplomatic and economic and other means. Guess only time will tell

Surely they didn't. England played an important role as did the lend-lease program of the US, but the USSR did most of the job (80%-ish of Nazi casualties were sustained in the eastern front) and at the greatest cost (25mn deaths).

Majorly yes, I don't think these harrowing historical events are the fault of a majority of people. I'm very happy that the soviets freed Europe of Nazism, I don't celebrate the deaths of German (or any) civilians in the process. I don't think American citizens are to blame for the millions murdered in Vietnam, Korea, Laos and Cambodia.

I'm not taking anything in any way, I'm making a statement about numbers, not about intentions

I don't hate Americans or English for the actions of their governments, I don't see why I should hate Russians

Not so much about your lack of /s, there's widespread russophobia since 2022 in the west and many people simply don't care what happens to so+called "orcs"

Yes, if Russia turns to murdering civilians on the scale of Iraq or Gaza, I'll be the first to condemn that more, but it isn't the case as of now. Not that this justifies the invasion or the nationalist Russian ideology, ofc