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  • video playback will likely kick the asic out of idle. What's your power use at true desktop idle?

    Generally speaking, vega 10 (56, 64) and 20 (radeon vii) are able to achieve decently low desktop idle with varied display configs due to the memory technology they employ.

  • Can you tell us which distro and display config this is with?

    I'm also in 3D_FULLSCREEN on NV21XT but my idle mclk is 96 MHz. TGP (not to be confused with TBP which is only communicated on RDNA 3 and up) is 6 watts at idle with my browsers open. GNOME 47 + Wayland, 2560 x 1440 @ 180Hz + 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz, VRR enabled on both displays. This is with Fedora 41, kernel 6.13.6-200.fc41.x86_64

    For context, the GPU index (0,1,2 etc) will depend on the number of video adapters you have in the system. If you have a CPU with integrated graphics, there's a chance this will be registered as 0000 whereas the dGPU will be 0001.

  • Oh I see, good to know

  • Radv is also a part of mesa, along with anv, nvk, turnip etc

  • I mean, it runs everything I need. But what is mainstream gaming to everyone else? Is it fortnite? Call of duty? Destiny 2? Pubg? Valorant? GTA? Battlefield? (weirdly a lot of shooters), Apex? Siege?

    May not matter to people like us but they each command something to the effect of hundreds of thousands of concurrent players. Capable as Linux distros are for gaming (truly the best way to experience classic games) the anticheat situation is no less dire.

  • right, good to know. I was under the impression this was included with Mesa. Admittedly I've never provisioned a system on Linux without amd gfx from the get go. Do users switching from nvidia (for example) to amd gfx need to manually install radv on their systems?

  • Is this analogous to radv? If so, does it need to be manually installed?

  • Idle power is determined by your display setup. Is your friend a comparable arrangement to yours? Do you run a couple high res high refresh rate displays?

    I'm a little surprised you're reaching the same idle draw as vega10 given its use of HBM2. Also worth noting that everything prior to RDNA 3 showed TGP instead of TBP. This was particularly annoying as it didn't account for other board power losses (like VRM), and didn't give monitoring software an accurate read :/

  • For perf deficits in rtrt with heavier effects (reflections, GI, AO), you may find some luck in leveraging AMDVLK instead of RADV. I don't doubt the latter will catch up in good time.

  • Distros building from source for their own repos may also be exempt then?

  • I have a similar memory of when I was young, overhearing my older brother and my uncle talking about chips. I thought they were talking about oven chips (fries elsewhere in the world). They were talking about the semiconductor industry. All I could think about was yummy yummy carbs.

    On an unrelated nore, I now work in the semiconductor industry.

  • in the UK we call them microcrisps

  • Thank you for the heads up my g. This is basically pvp payday 2 (pre-planning shit) and I'm here for it. Gonna buy this for the group.

    e: this game has so much charm. I've bought 25 copies for myself, friends and colleagues. Thanks again for the tip.

  • But how will he say gamer words whilst playing pubg?

    bellend

  • sick one. Thank you for your efforts.

  • they fully won't but I'd like for you to be able to play once again if you enjoyed it way back when. Hell I think they even went to far as to detect & prevent play on a Linux host when running the game through a win VM with Gfx pass through.

  • Ah right. Appreciate the info!

  • Oh right. When I first heard about Lemmy, I tried to join .ml because it was the first instance I was made aware of. I think it was being rate limited at the time due to that whole reddit exodus thing, and I wasn't able to get through, but. .world let me sign up so here I am.

    I'd like to think that members of a given instance have their own opinions. It's sad to hear about how territorial lemmy is.