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The feel sad on different levels. For some kinds of sad billions of military aid are warranted, and for other kinds of sad thoughts and prayers, and there are even situations of "sad, but they had it coming".

Strictly speaking, there are very few women in the combat units of the IDF.

But yes, you understood me correctly. I meant civilians.

Why do you keep posting nonsense? Anything about me anybody can judge for themselves from my comments. You look like a moron. Things don't become your way just cause you say so.

It's not about easy or hard, it's about this not happening cause there's no force to make it happen.

First, you wrote some incomprehensible bullshit, second, I'm part Jewish.

That terrorist attack has already happened, and there's another terrorist attack underway, this time with cassette munitions and white phosphorus and in general very different capabilities, done by another side.

Of some bearded terrorist guy going to belly dance clubs in Cairo, surely.

The arrogance to think anybody would shy away from attacking "a UN taskforce".

You know, PKs get killed all the time. UN employees get killed. Everybody gets killed.

You think it's going to be different here? Or you are just ignorant of how this works cause it's not interesting?

UN is not something which would enforce rules. It's not built for that, it's not a world government.

Yeah, nobody has quite the strength even for these two sides. First, war is not a linear application of resources, it's unpredictable. Second, that'd be a precedent every nation with conflicts would try to prevent, and such nations are usually the strongest. Third, we've all seen over the years how well UN missions, peacekeepers etc work.

See, on the one hand you’re validly calling out sensationalism and propaganda, but on the other you’re kind of going further the other way. She wasn’t kidnapped, she was murdered and her corpse mutilated, paraded and spat on. And it isn’t her vs 100s of murdered Palestinians, she is but a figurehead representing hundreds dead in Israel.

You know, google for "Anush Apetyan" and consider that Israel is Azerbaijan's main military supplier after Russia, and almost an ally, and nothing from what Azerbaijani troops are doing (just the same Hamas stuff) seems to have any effect.

Also Israel is a genocide-denier state. Israelis on the Web like to behave all cynical and realpolitik-enjoying and "what are you going to do" on subjects similar to what Hamas has done in Sderot etc.

I'd say there is an element of crocodile tears in this.

Action should be taken to prevent anybody doing anything like this again, to Israelis or anybody else, but that doesn't mean Israel somehow got moral. Promoting that would be exploiting events for propaganda.

There's been an earthquake just a few days ago in Afghanistan, Pakistan etc, killing more than 2000 people, and by your comment I can see you don't even know about it.

And I was arguing against Hamas immediately after it happened, but now I'm arguing against Israel because the original comment is right, they have now adjusted all their propaganda tools to use the events to justify ethnic cleansing with lots of civilian dead right now.

Gazan women and children are not responsible for "their fighters" or Hamas, just as Israeli women and children are not responsible for bombs falling on Gaza.

I'm disgusted with both, but proportionally to their strength.

It's not really about religion. It's about tribalism and sabre rattling.

One side is barbaric, another side cowardly, so their sabre rattling doesn't look very impressive, rather disgusting in both cases.

For fuck's sake, this is actually the most annoying FF bug I've noticed and it is important for me!

You guys mean it's been fixed now?

Wow.

That's not what I'm talking about, I meant, say, helping those similar to you with the implicit idea that they'd help you too, and that being a common rule in a certain subset of the society, thus working.

Can't remember now why I chose that word, "corporatism". (Not important for the subject, but Knights Templar or any trading family or clan that would exist before 1400s can still be called corporations, same for religious sects.)

where you blamed not just Hamas but all Palestinians

No, I was only talking about Hamas at every point in this thread.

At this point I agree with the other person who blocked you.

Because you have no other weapon in this conversation.

Actually the former included the latter. So no.

That's corporatism in a wider sense. Existed since times immemorial. It's a systemic problem, that is, defined by architecture.

With private schools you can choose what you pay for (at least in theory), and with public schools you take what you're given.

Since school education involves lots of contention by different parties over which exact kind of indoctrination and\or mustering and humiliation will the kids experience, I'd say private schools are a good idea in this particular regard.

However, I live in Russia and here both the concept of private schools isn't quite existent (there are some, but they are very expensive and at the same time not very good, and the prestigious ones are all public, and they'll have the same standard program anyway) and I haven't studied in one.

At least somewhere about 9th grade they gave up trying to make me not sleep at all the lessons.

They are not trying to attract usual people from civilized countries.

They are trying to attract people of the same culture as them and they are succeeding. These actions and videos bring them feeling of dominance, satisfaction and violent pride (of genocidal kind, I dare say), and also of being feared.

Also they are denying Israelis the feeling of safety they had - despite all those missiles sometimes being shot, and all those buses sometimes blowing up, they haven't been for many years generally afraid of meeting armed thugs face-to-face, being humiliated, beaten, raped, their bodies mutilated and proudly shown by the perpetrators as part of a mass murder. This is a tangible result. This will weaken Israel in some ways long term (and in some strengthen it, probably, but maybe they don't think that).

Also they have shown that you can make this kind of a raid on Israel with a relatively small force and succeed. All the Arab world now knows this.

And that's only Hamas. If, say, Hezbollah, a much stronger organization, seriously tries to hurt them, it will.

Recruiting Middle-Eastern Muslims to your cause, with your cause being Jihadist and genocidal, is something most consistent with this approach.

Have you seen these recent videos with crowds in Gaza cheering over all those bodies and yelling "Allahu akbar", "Khaybar" and such things?

I mean, the very fact that they are sharing these naturally and openly should inform you about that society (if you knew nothing about it before, that is, cause what I'm trying to communicate is obvious for anybody knowing anything about West Asia).