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you're the one who wants to tell the teacher on islam

we have enforced dress on a gendered basis in our society

Yeah from what the guy was telling me they have pretty extensive public transport. Land there is just too expensive to waste on car parks

also the french had soldiers on beaches ripping off islamic garments there is no reason to trust they would handle this with any sensitivity whatsoever

yeah if you discount all the secular motives behind the wars of the reformation as well. The French have basically always been trying to keep Germany down as Germany's large population worries them financially and militarily. Henry the 8th didn't convert for religious reasons he converted because he needed a strong male heir to keep the plantagenots at bay and the pope wouldn't let him annul his marriage to Catharine of Aragon who kept having stillbirths

if they want to promote secularism (which is good)

you mean athiesm. Secularism is when you don't take any stance about what people should believe.

and you can't just have parents not involve their children in their religious belief even athiest parents involve their children in their beliefs on religion

ah but the welsh are all romans in denial and the land they hold should belong to the Irish. And the Irish are all Celts and the land they hold should belong to the doggerlanders

setting limits on whether or not minority ethnic groups are allowed to practice harmless and innocuous aspects of their faith. Which are enforced by being denied education if they don't comply.

Call it what you want but these limits are in violation of the UN recognised rights of freedom of conscience and the right to education

I've got an article about Russian neo Nazis fighting for Ukraine if that's of any interest

also Christianity doesn't have a commandment about people wearing crosses at all times so it's not an equivalent ask to not wear a cross

so you have freedom to tell others how to dress and which religious beliefs they can practice but others do not have freedom to dress as they will or practice their religion got it

ok that's fair but christianity as a movement doesn't have the recognisable item all members are expected to wear and so the rule doesn't apply to them as much. French catholicism specifically is not affected by such a law

Also France discriminating against the way protestants and other non catholic christians dress would be bad as well.

even if it was religious (which it partially is) muslims have a right to practice their faith. Keep religion out of education is a slogan that means don't let religious groups control the content of educational content but has been coopted in this thread to mean "don't allow children the right to practice their parents faith"

well except for the fact that Christianity doesn't have an item of clothing it's members are expected to wear and thus such a rule doesn't target Christianity equally

yes they are also persecuting sikhs, and the branches of Judaism that mandate wearing yarmulkes etc

That's not what secularism means. Secularism is when the institution doesn't have a religious stance you could have a secular prayer room if you made it open to all faiths

Well if we look at the Romans, Assyrians, British, French, and Germans and their wars it's abundantly clear that most of their wars were for the aquisition of wealth. The vast majority of wars even in the middle ages were openly about arguments between noble families over land

not sure how the way you choose to dress isn't a private affair

wiping away those distinctions at the door is an extremely valuable part of social education.

no the role of education is not to erase minority cultures that is not only on the face of it terrible it's also directly and extremely counter to China's policy on ethnic minority cultures within China which is based on Stalin's policy on Russian ethnic minorities specifically that they should be enabled to practice their culture without the state getting in the way. It's much more in line with the Tsar's attitude towards ethnic minorities and russification. Stop making China look bad by attributing this terrible idea China wouldn't do to China

the french won't let muslim children wear their religious dress in school

Are kids meaningfully capable of exercising their freedom of conscience though

arguably not but you could also make that argument in favour of all children being forced to wear islamic dress.

yes religious parents put their finger on the scale of the kids decision but so do non-religious parents with regards to their kids religious views that's just how raising children within a culture works. It's not a lifetime commitment the same freedom of conscience that means they have a right to practice their faith also means they have a right to abandon it if once they are older they change their minds.

ols can and should seek to eliminate these kinds of cultural differences within the student body because it teaches kids to segregate themselves, that's why school uniforms are generally a good thing.

school uniforms are a good thing but exemptions to uniform rules on religious grounds have been a long recorded tradition. When the British forced sepoys to use cartridges that meant they had to partially consume beef and pork fat were the Indians wrong to compain or were the British merely removing cultural differences between the Muslims, Hindus, and British.