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  • I've seen others online suggest that this was an intentional leak for fundraising, but I'm dubious of that for a couple of reasons

    1. The leads for dems in some of these races (though certainly not all) are larger than what you'd hope to leak to show it's still competitive to drive donations. For instance, they show Hogan in Maryland down by 7 points and trending in the opposite direction. If they were intentionally leaking, they probably wouldn't have mention these races or leaked an outlier poll showing it closer
    2. Why would they leak mediocre trump president numbers in this too? Trump wants to claim that he's winning and that everything is rigged against him, but leaking something showing the opposite would undercut him and draw his ire
  • Not to mention, NBC ran the numbers with different turnout cases. In one of those cases, a very realistic but small few percentage point changes in turnout assumptions of different demographics could make the poll swing to 49% Harris to 46% Trump

    How different turnout models change the NBC News poll results

    Further, two other national polls released today showed the race as Harris+3. A lot of the dooming tends to be based on single polls. Yes the polls suggest race is close, but only paying attention to anything bad/mediocre isn't helpful either


    Don't doom, take action instead

    Make sure to register to vote. Deadlines are fast approaching in many states

    Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online

    Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races

  • Note that you are repeating the same polls multiple times in that listing. 538 lists the same poll multiple times based on the different results from it (likely voters vs register voters) and head to head vs full field often giving 2 to 4 results per poll. These are not separate polls. The NYT only did one poll of PA recently, don't assume those are 4 at the same time


    As an aside, some of the pollsters have gotten more partisan this cycle. That recent TIPP poll there was the most egregious where a previously reputable pollster just decided to just assume that philadelphia was going to have 1/10 of the normal turnout in their likely voter screening (look at the unusually massive difference in their likely voters vs registered voters). This is despite asking how likely they were to vote and people in philadelphia respondeded with normal numbers, not anything anywhere close to 1/10th. It wasn't a mistake either, they replied saying they were the ones who did the likely voting screen and there were no errors, but didn't really offer much of an explication of why they basically assumed philadelphia wouldn't vote

  • Highly encourage turning that election anxiety into action

    Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online

    Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races


    On the flip side, Trump was overestimated in the Republican primaries this year. Pollsters have dramatically altered their polling this year in ways that are going to be more favorable to trump this year.

    For instance, about 2/3rd of polls are now using recall polling which has historically not been used by pollsters because it tend to overstate the losing party of the election and underestimate the winners. Even non-recall polls have made changes like much more heavily sampling rural voters. Not to mention that the numbers of polls from partisian republican pollsters has been increasing which skews polling averages

    Could he still be underestimated with all those changes, maybe, but at the same time I wouldn't assume that's anything given

  • It didn't say "have to" as in you are legally obligated to. It says why "it's best to" and explains why 3rd parties act as spoilers in the first past the post system and how voting for a 3rd party can lead to the exact opposite person winning than who you want

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