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You've spent this entire discussion lamenting about how depraved the leadership of these groups are, how they're the ones driving the conflict. Now you're going to swap to saying that it's cultural? Make up your mind.

If you lament this fact then stop bringing up how deplorable they are! They didn't pick them because they're actually morally abhorrent monsters, they picked them because they were counting on westerners racism towards islamic resistance groups. I guess they picked a winner!

You don't understand. There will be no government left. Either the international community steps in because it finally realizes its moral obligation to stop a genocide, in which case Israel's government is gone; either tried in the Hague or dead, and the whole region is collapsed into newly-formed single state staffed by UN stooges. Or things continue as they are and we watch a million people get starve under the boot of fascist colonial expansionism, their leadership having fled or been killed. Then we get to watch it all over again when Israel decides it wants the West Bank, too.

Buddy you said it in so many words in the first comment of this chain:

Both sides of this conflict have some of the worst of humanity in positions where they get to decide over such things.

They could be the most wretched beings on the face of this fucking earth and I would still support them against Israel. I don't care how they feel or what they did. If you're mad about the moral degeneracy of the leadership in Gaza then you have Israel to thank for that. They propped up Hamas deliberately over the more secular, sympathetic resistance groups in the strip specifically so people could make this disgusting argument. You are helping them, playing right into their fucking hands.

Whatever comes after this is one of two scenarios: the destruction of Gaza, or the dissolution of Israel. There is no outcome where things go back to how they were before Oct 7. That door is closed and the status quo of those times was no less unjust the the current situation. These two states cannot coexist, worrying about how Israel and Gaza will get along when the bombs stop dropping is pointless because things have escalated to the point where one or both cannot and will not survive this. Hemming and hawing about how much Gaza will hate Israel is pointless navel gazing.

My problem with you is this shit right here:

Are you saying every person on the side being eradicated is a saint? Are you saying all “both sides” statements are inaccurate simply because one side has shown itself to be by far more monstrous?

This is the moral equivocation that is pissing me off. Shut the fuck up about it! It doesn't matter!

And that is gonna be an obstacle along any path you might take to make this stop.

No it isn't and I wish you would stop insisting that it is or would be. Neither the people of Gaza nor their leaders have the ability to stop this shit; what they feel about Israelis matters not at all. The motherfuckers standing by, watching, supporting this shit are the one's whose morality you should be calling into question. They are the obstacles standing in the way of justice and peace, ignoring their moral obligation to stop a fucking genocide.

If you agree, then you don't need to do this ridiculous moral equivocation bullshit. Worry about the morality of whoever remains when the people murdering civilians en masse have stopped. Going out of your way to point out how the unquestionable victims are "no angels" is what isn't helping.

I'll leave out the insult to your intelligence this time, since I guess I'm testing the mods patience.

I consider myself pretty broke and I don’t think I could convince anyone to give me nearly $200 million for bail.

Three missiles. Staggered so that survivors of each one could collect in remaining vehicles from the convoy. They had pre approval from the IDF and had provided their itinerary. Deliberate, calculated, and fucking criminal.

They did it to try to broaden the conflict in hopes of drawing in direct military support from their western allies.

I imagine if this attacker wasn't in a rush to get the backdoor into the upcoming Debian and Fedora stable releases he would have been able to notice and correct the increased CPU usage tell and remain undetected.

I guess he's not quite as broke as everyone keeps insisting.

It's seven now.

I think ideas about prevention should be more concerned with the social engineering aspect of this attack. The code itself is certainly cleverly hidden, but any bad actor who gains the kind of access as Jia did could likely pull off something similar without duplicating their specific method or technique.

as long as you're up to date on everything here: https://boehs.org/node/everything-i-know-about-the-xz-backdoor

the only additional thing i've seen noted is a possibilty that they were using Arch based on investigation of the tarball that they provided to distro maintainers

people do pay for discord though. that was the entire justification for Nitro and Server Boosts. they made $440 million in revenue in 2022. they aren't publicly traded so there's no way to compare that with expenses, but i'd be pretty surprised if they weren't turning a significant profit.

Fuck off Zionist I have nothing to say to you.